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Old 06-16-2010, 02:55 PM   #1
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Need help with fixing camber

Hey guys, so I just installed 18" VB3 rims and lowered my car with Eibach ProKit springs. Bought a lifetime alignment service with firestone also. I went and got the service done yesterday, but the guy told me after that they dont have the BMW tool to fix the front camber I believe it was. He said it was about 1 degree out of spec or something.

I called multiple other firestones to see if they have the tool, and one told me that they aren't supposed to offer alignment services to BMWs and to go to a dealer? So I then called a small BMW shop and he said the front are not adjustable at all...so I'm very confused.

I dont want to ruin my brand new tires here...is 1 degree out of spec terrible? Do I need to buy a camber kit or something? I'm very new to suspension things, my first rim and spring purchase Thanks for any help
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Old 06-16-2010, 04:59 PM   #2
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No camber adjustment is BS! I don't know of any tool required to adjust front camber. There is a factory setting pin that must be knocked out of the strut mount. However, there is limited adjustment. So, if you went too low then yes you may need a camber kit. Someone with the same setup may chime in. What is the camber now -1, -2, -?
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Old 06-16-2010, 05:37 PM   #3
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I left the paper somewhere, and will report back with what it is. I got Eibach Pro Kits, which are like the smallest drop out of any springs...factory pin eh, he probably didn't know about that or something.
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Old 06-16-2010, 05:40 PM   #4
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No camber adjustment is BS! I don't know of any tool required to adjust front camber. There is a factory setting pin that must be knocked out of the strut mount. However, there is limited adjustment. So, if you went too low then yes you may need a camber kit. Someone with the same setup may chime in. What is the camber now -1, -2, -?
YES. Camber is adjustable within a certain limit. All you need is someone who knows their sh1t!. Very simple adjustment! No special tool required. Chas.
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Old 06-16-2010, 07:09 PM   #5
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Stupid firestone. So is this pin something that needs to be put back or anything after adjustment? Can I take it out beforehand and then take it in or should I tell them about the pin and have them take it out? Any more info about this pin?
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Old 06-16-2010, 07:15 PM   #6
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Just chisel off the top of the pin head. The strut top plates are slotted & will then allow you to make small camber adjustments. If more camber is needed, then the 3 top plate holes will have to be elongated with a file or a drill bit to gain the additional camber necessary. However, very few alignment shops will do this extra procedure. And if they do, be prepared to pay extra. Chas
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Old 06-16-2010, 07:32 PM   #7
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Look under the hood at the strut mount. There are three nuts that fix the mount the the fender tower. Next to one of the nuts is a pin. I just took a punch and drove it out. This pin is to make assembly at the factory go quicker. It must be removed to adjust camber. It will never be needed again!
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Old 06-16-2010, 07:58 PM   #8
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Thanks, I will take a look. So I can just punch it out myself, and then take it to an alignment shop and they can adjust the camber just like any normal car? Like, would I even need to tell them that I took this out or anything? Found my alignment paper, the numbers in red are....

Front Left Camber
Actual: -1 degree 04'
Before: -1 degree 04'

Front Left Toe
Actual (green): .15 degrees
Before: .17 degrees (I am assuming that they fix this and that its fine right?)

Front Right Camber
Actual: -1 degree 09'
Before: -1 degree 11'

Front Right Caster
Actual: 4 degrees 45'
Before: 4 degrees 45'

So yea...these are all foreign concepts to me. Seem fixable though?

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Old 06-16-2010, 08:26 PM   #9
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I wouldn't trust a Firestone dealer to put air in my tires.
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Old 06-16-2010, 09:15 PM   #10
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YES. Camber is adjustable within a certain limit. All you need is someone who knows their sh1t!. Very simple adjustment! No special tool required. Chas.
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Old 06-17-2010, 02:11 AM   #11
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I wouldn't trust a Firestone dealer to put air in my tires.
Well I wanted lifetime alignment. I even contacted a BMW specialist, bullet motorwerks in OC, and he basically said the same thing. I will take a look for the pin later today. Once that is out they can align like normal right?
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Old 06-17-2010, 11:05 AM   #12
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What were they trying to change it to? If your at -1 in front, it should be ok as is. I had mine set at -.8 to get better tire wear. Rears are at -1.5. I'm slightly lowered on H&R sports and Bilstein sports.
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Old 06-17-2010, 02:23 PM   #13
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well it says "Specified Range" for the front is -0 degrees 40' 0 degrees 00'

btw, how am i supposed to read the last 2 numbers with ' at the end? its not equal to -0.40 degrees..
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Old 06-17-2010, 06:32 PM   #14
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alright, just took it out. i am going to assume that now any alignment shop can fix the camber without special tools? will take it back to firestone
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did you get it fixed?
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