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Old 06-25-2010, 12:23 AM   #1
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330 race car won't start(electrical problem)

I was getting ready for a track event this weekend and decided to read some codes(Peake), after I read them I reset the CEL. I can't remember if it was immediately after or maybe a few starts after but now the car won't start. A few minutes prior the car started and ran fine, I think it's somehow related to the order/how I read/reset the codes that caused my problem. I put the key in and turn it to I and it acts normal(miles to next oil change pops up), I turn it to II and the dash goes crazy for a few seconds and the fuel pump relay will click a couple of times. If I turn it to start nothing happens. I've unplugged the battery several times, unplugged the ECU, unplugged the main control unit, and swapped the fuel pump relay, non of which have helped. And it's not a low battery...


First attempt I go 1, then 2 and the lights flash for a second then go out.
Second attempt(:17) I go 1, then straight to start.
Third attempt(:32) I go 1, then 2 and the lights flash for a second and go out.


First attempt I go 1, then 2. The lights flash on, then off, then back on and then quickly fade off except for the windshield light remains dimly lit.

If I try to read CEL the Peake tool shows E10 which is apparently a communication error.
If I try to reset the CEL the Peake tool shows E11, again a communication error.
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Old 06-25-2010, 07:33 AM   #2
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Damn that stinks Greg. I wish I had an answer for you.
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Old 06-25-2010, 10:25 AM   #3
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Greg -

Sorry to hear you're having issues like this - as you'd probably guess, this is not a normal situation...

I'm going to suggest you have a chat with our tech help today, but in the meantime, here are some things I would check:

1. Closely inspect the pins on the tool's connectors as well the port. Hopefully nothing is damaged causing a short. Given the fact that the tool is showing E10/E11, chances are things are in good enough condition to report those communication errors.

2. You note you've ruled out battery voltage - that will be an obvious question for the tech team. Double checking that will certainly be in the list of suggestions.

3. Check fuses in the panel.

Given that you were successful in retrieving the codes just prior to this strangeness, and that the error codes are now visible is a decent indicator that the tool itself is functioning properly. Nothing sounds unusual about the sequence, and my gut feeling is that this issue is coincidental. Unfortunately, not being a mechanic, I don't have further suggestions.

Feel free to contact me directly - ken.h@peakeresearch.com 866-874-3799, or our tech support - 800-231-6861, tcs@peakeresearch.com . This page has the contact info, and list of typical information that will be asked for: http://www.r5tool.com/techsupport1.htm

I hope this gets resolved for you in time to get running this weekend.

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Old 06-25-2010, 12:08 PM   #4
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I know you mentioned its not a battery...

But why not firmly rule out one variable. I'd suggest putting a charger on it. Even better is if the charger has a start feature.

Let us know how it turns out!
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Dang, good luck. Looks like your washer fluid is low...might be your issue...
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Greg -

I spoke with our tech crew about this, and they're advice mimics what has been said above - check fuses, attempt a battery swap, check ignition switch. They also suggested checking your grounding. It certainly sounds like an electrical gremlin.

They're also certain that your tool connection/power up sequence could not cause this. They agree that the situation is coincidental, given that the tool is powering and assessing the communication properly.

Sorry we couldn't provide more definitive assistance here...

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Old 06-26-2010, 08:50 PM   #7
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It was an internal short in the battery, it must have just happened because the battery worked fine a few minutes prior. And yes I did put a jumper on the now old battery while it was still in the car and it still wouldn't start. Put in a new battery and it works fine. Thanks to Peake for chiming in.
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Old 06-27-2010, 05:27 PM   #8
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Glad to hear it wasn't anything major.
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Awesome!
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What kind of battery?
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What kind of battery?
Odyssey PC680.

EDIT- It looks like they're going to warranty it so that's good.

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Good news, glad to hear you got it back up and running!
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Old 07-14-2010, 04:09 PM   #13
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It took 2 weeks and 2 days(which is reasonable considering it had to be shipped around a bunch), but I did get a new battery for free.
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Woot. Glad you got it figured out!
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Odyssey PC680.

EDIT- It looks like they're going to warranty it so that's good.
Those are pretty good batteries! Popular with car audio guys.
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