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Perceptive. That was the number I was thinking of. We will see. Not racecar light, but light. Very good power and very good grip. No full cage, so that hurts chassis stiffness...
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You should definitely paint the splitter gold, it'll help with downforce and make 2:05's easy.
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Then why aren't you fast?
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I see what you did there. And the answer is tires... yes, tires.
Last edited by vaio76109; 07-22-2010 at 06:42 PM. |
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Because his splitter is black like yours, not gold
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Negative. His picture has a black splitter.
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http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/3383/img0725m.jpg
Is that... is that gold? God that Greg guy is just ballin' outta control. Sorry James, I don't mean to steal your thunder. Last edited by vaio76109; 07-22-2010 at 08:14 PM. |
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Ooooh....like the OEM E9X wheels!
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James - looking at the Bimmerworld pictures of the Moton race struts, am I seeing things, or is the part that mounts to the kingpin bent?
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2:05.988, good job James.
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Loving the wheels, and the whole project for the matter.
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Thanks - will do an update when I get back. 100 degree heat didn't help anything, but I'll take it!
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the finished product is amazing! great job guys looking forward to the last update with parts and prices |
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"Finally, an update" you say. Yup. I warned you guys that this was a scramble to build. Stack on the UTCC day at VIR, a PM photoshoot with the car, a tripp 4 hours north to Summit Point, and a weekend instructing the BimmerWorld Club Racing School and I was nicely behind. Now, I am starting to dig out.
Now, in the style of the great George Lucas, this is Episode I of the Final Mid-Project BimmerWorld Update Trilogy. And if I can get it in gear, USA Network-style, you will get one per night to fill your weekend with reading fun. If. First a quick disclaimer - "Mid-Project"? Uh-huh - the UTCC was the very fast initial build of this car and had a stopwatch nicely attached to the event so the results were evident. But we still have a few items in prototype stage and some in final design. So the project will go on a little further - probably until someone buys the car, moving all our tinkering efforts back to my street car. Episode I - Build Catch-Up Right - we aren't going to jump right into the UTCC results. You wouldn't pick up a book and read the last chapter would you? So here is a short retrospective of the final stages of the work that got the car out the door. Checklists. If you are organized you use them along with good pre-planning to eliminate surprises. Ours is getting shorter here. ![]() What is missing here? ![]() Pretty black Performance Friction calipers you say? Remember they aren't part of our budget. Rust? No - we have that, taunting our wallet to spend more money... Caliper retaining clips! Those little pieces of spring steel that keep a BMW rubber-mounted, single-piston floating caliper from twisting quite as much as they might want to. One of our little tricks typically for street/track cars, not full street or a lot of inclement weather use - Solid Brake Guides. These brass bushings replace the [typically worn out] rubber caliper guides with something precise. Like a solid suspension point - less movement means more accuracy. These won't get us to BBK territory, but with the PFC Direct Drive rotors and some good pads, we made a nice jump that direction for a bit less money. Aero... The wing was easy - we already designed that piece, so it was a 30 minute bolt-on. But getting rear downforce is always easy. What people neglect is the matching and very hard to create front downforce. The best we can do on a car built to this scope (no relocated engine, semi-tube chassis, etc) is a good front splitter and undertray. Thanks to friend and customer Josh's build, we started our fast design project with an ebay lip. ![]() After mounting the lip (we like to call it a riser - part aerodynamically connecting the bumper to the undertray), we design the undertray with cardboard - going back as far as possible - typically the centerline of the front wheels. ![]() Now recreate with alumalite (we will do carbon for a production part, but this is the fast and cheap route) ![]() And mount on the car. We made standoffs to mount the undertray so if the splitter rips off on(off) track, the bumper doesn't feel the need to follow. ![]() Racetech seats and Schroth Profi-II harnesses for track use - standard seatbelts also installed for street duty, because 1)I feel like an idiot driving with harnesses on the street and 2)a 3-point is specifically designed so than in a wreck on the street, where help may not be quite so trained or quick as the track, 1 cut gets you out - that's just good safety. ![]() The Hotchkis logo. On our Hotchkis swaybars. They're the biggest in production, which works the best in my opinion. And they are tubular so they are light and very adjustable. ![]() And the results are in. On 93 pump gas, no trickery, and in full street trim - 338 rear wheel Hp. BAM! ![]() Stay tuned for Eposide II - the UTCC (and Summit Point) report...
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Wow, thats an impressive rear wheel horspower figure, isn't that somewhere close to almost 400hp at the flywheel?
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Why yes - its more like 412Hp if we use 18% as the driveline loss of this chassis, which I feel is fairly typical for the driveline parts used.
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Awe, i was using 15% which put me right at 397ish, sorry I'm a number cruncher. Been working on statistical analysis and differential equations here lately so its like my wind down math i guess you can say. It makes me stop playing with numbers as much.
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15% is pretty optimistic. We can get there on a racecar, but remember - no trickery on this car...
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of course i was getting my drivetrain loses percentage from when i used to run around with my fwd imports and what not. I got that from sport compact car, which i kinda miss cause it was more technical than the rest of the fluff these days.
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