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Old 10-07-2010, 10:25 AM   #41
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sell m and get the corvette im selling way more bang for the buck. but yes i agree with the gang if you really want 600hp and want to keep the m go HPF!!!
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if you paid top dollar for meth injection and race gas tunes specialized with safety features to boot.. regardless of "crippling" to not use them would just be retarded.
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Exactly^. "Well if you dont use race gas" "Well if you dont use methanol" "Well if you dont use that much boost then your car is slow why did you spend that money" Wow ppl are so stupid so many complete haters aka loser keyboard warriors.
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I can assure you a a basic bolt on z06 will beat you pump gas vs pump gas
Here is a nice thread about a Stg. 2.5 vs. a Zo6 with a S/C. Good run as the HPF car was running all out (race/meth) apples to apples.

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=731277

With a little work the Zo6 is a beast.
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Old 10-07-2010, 10:37 AM   #43
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& yeah that mcspeed guy is pretty cool and chill.
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Here is a nice thread about a Stg. 2.5 vs. a Zo6 with a S/C. Good run as the HPF car was running all out (race/meth) apples to apples.

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=731277

With a little work the Zo6 is a beast.
nice post, good point, that kit costs half as much as an HPF built engine stage as it has a stock motor, and furthermore, that's not even a Z06, that's a Z51 it has the "little" motor in it.
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Old 10-07-2010, 10:42 AM   #45
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lets not argue about the z06. We dont even know the OP and shoving this z06 which his father might even have into his mouth. He clearly stated m3 in a e46 forum, and who the hell knows might have the same post in a vette forum. Dont let it lead you guys all out to some pi66 match

there are only a few ways to hit his mark.as long as he is commited to spending the money on the packages.


heres one of the choice
http://store.activeautowerke.com/act...vel-2-p44.aspx

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http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/perf...bos/Turbo_Kits


in alphabetical order, call them yourself if you can get more power out of their kits if methanol and stuff isnt part of their initial package.

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Good call, sorry for running further off track...

HPF is the OP's only option, but it's a really good one.
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Old 10-07-2010, 11:55 AM   #47
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Good call, sorry for running further off track...

HPF is the OP's only option, but it's a really good one.
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The only person who appears to be retarded is you, why would you come to a BMW forum and talk crap when you don't own a BMW? Ahhh I see even your Audi forums don't want you around. There is an old saying, you run what you brung.
Ugh i Have a turbo e36. that has as much invested as a hpf 1 kit total with including the car invested in it so carry on.
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Here is a nice thread about a Stg. 2.5 vs. a Zo6 with a S/C. Good run as the HPF car was running all out (race/meth) apples to apples.

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=731277

With a little work the Zo6 is a beast.
Thats not alittle work. 14psi is no joke on those motors, my friend has a c5zo6 twin turbo (built motor) running 13psi making 750whp. 14psi should be easy 800whp on the vette above. The S54 is tiny compared to that motor, it needs more boost...

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nice post, good point, that kit costs half as much as an HPF built engine stage as it has a stock motor, and furthermore, that's not even a Z06, that's a Z51 it has the "little" motor in it.
Little motor? Its double the size of the S54 (nearly) and makes 437hp stock...

Building a BMW motor and making a turbo kit with all the extra bells/whistles is no joke. Come on now....
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Thats not alittle work. 14psi is no joke on those motors, my friend has a c5zo6 twin turbo (built motor) running 13psi making 750whp. 14psi should be easy 800whp on the vette above. The S54 is tiny compared to that motor, it needs more boost...



Little motor? Its double the size of the S54 (nearly) and makes 437hp stock...

Building a BMW motor and making a turbo kit with all the extra bells/whistles is no joke. Come on now....
Little motor in the sense that it's only a 6.2L, not a 7L... if you get a corvette, it comes with one of two displacements: a smaller one and a larger one... and you can get the smaller one supercharged stock too. It's not a little motor, it's the little motor, when referencing the only other option. And though the S54 is no joke, BMW doesnt make really big engines when compared with Americans.

Trust me, I think I realize and respect better than most people the intricacies of building a full turbo setup for a bmw i6 with lots of bells and whistles. And that's the beauty of the S54, it doesn't need as many bells and whistles as most other engines. That head is magic. To flow anywhere near a S54, which I still don't, I had to sped a fair amount of money on the head. The s54 head has stock titanium sodium filled exhaust valves. It's insanely great. Which is what makes it cheaper to make lots and lots of power on. It's not like a 2jz that needs cams and valves and lots of porting.

Saying that's not little work is like saying a AA sc isn't little work. To me, the simplicity of that kit is what makes it awesome. The HPF kit has more hardware, requires a lot more work, often including a motor build.

To the OP, MachRc is right. If you can deal with 600 crank hp, consider the s/c options. They're very reliable and a good bit less expensive than turbo. Also a sc stage 2, such as active's will yield better performance than a HPF stage 1, pump vs pump. HPF is a great deal for stage 1, if you find it appropriate to run race gas most of the time, in which, without running methanol, it is the cheapest way to yield 600whp on a e46.
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Thats not alittle work. 14psi is no joke on those motors, my friend has a c5zo6 twin turbo (built motor) running 13psi making 750whp. 14psi should be easy 800whp on the vette above. The S54 is tiny compared to that motor, it needs more boost...


And when is a e46 going to run at least tens? lol

Little motor? Its double the size of the S54 (nearly) and makes 437hp stock...

Building a BMW motor and making a turbo kit with all the extra bells/whistles is no joke. Come on now....
I dont see the evo guys making excuses for Liters. they are 2.0Ls and making more then any e46 ever.







are you for real? I dont see this guy with a 1.3L complaining.
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I dont see the evo guys making excuses for Liters. they are 2.0Ls and making more then any e46 ever.







are you for real? I dont see this guy with a 1.3L complaining.
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you guys scared the OP away.

what a great forum.

OP asks one question and now he has 3 pages of ooze to read before being able to reply.
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I dont see the evo guys making excuses for Liters. they are 2.0Ls and making more then any e46 ever.







are you for real? I dont see this guy with a 1.3L complaining.
HUH? Are you kidding me? Good for you! Those cars run what 40+psi, nitrous?

Nobody is complaining, i was just pointing the obvious about the comparison between a 3.2l and 6.2l motor. You don't need to post your constant negative banter. Why don't you show us how almighty your E36 turbo is?

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Its a daily driver. 480whp on a mustang dyno. my s4 is my fast car 636 whp on old set-up pump gas.
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Its a daily driver. 480whp on a mustang dyno my s4 is my fast car.
does your s4 have two gt28s?
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