iGO Primo Issues/Tweaks/Systxt thread

I hope this will help someone in the future. I was able to get everything working. My issue was the first line in the SYS.TXT:

app="StorageCard/iGO Primo"

I didn't need it. I had tried to delete the SYS.TXT file in testing but I was getting different errors and the whole process was getting confusing to keep track of what I tried and what I didn't.

I can confirm that formatting my SD Card in a MAC was and is not an issue. Thanks to all on this board (especially Darko) for their help.

Originally Posted by SC328i

When I get to a destination and the nav screen is on, I turn off the car. When I turn the car back on, the blue Dynavin nav screen shows, then the white screen with the three options, then the custom screen until it's loaded. I thought when I first loaded Primo, it would go right to the custom load screen, skipping the first two. Was I dreaming or did I change something?

The Dynavin screen is for the unit booting up and is coded into the firmware. It will always show this screen when you turn on the head unit. Think of this as your computer's BIOS screen. It will always load, no matter what operating system you have installed.

The white screen with the three options is the Windows CE interface, so that's also part of the firmware. Think of this screen as your "Windows Desktop". If you go into settings, you can set the navigation program to automatically start when you hit the NAV button. In that respect, hitting the NAV button is like double clicking on an icon and starting iGO Primo. Sometimes you might not see this screen because iGO is started automatically and it'll already be at the iGO loading screen.

The custom loading screen is only for when iGO Primo is loading. It is purely software and has no relation to the firmware side of the headunit.

For primo, can someone suggest a good green sports car?

Originally Posted by uncompiled

The Dynavin screen is for the unit booting up and is coded into the firmware. It will always show this screen when you turn on the head unit. Think of this as your computer's BIOS screen. It will always load, no matter what operating system you have installed.

The white screen with the three options is the Windows CE interface, so that's also part of the firmware. Think of this screen as your "Windows Desktop". If you go into settings, you can set the navigation program to automatically start when you hit the NAV button. In that respect, hitting the NAV button is like double clicking on an icon and starting iGO Primo. Sometimes you might not see this screen because iGO is started automatically and it'll already be at the iGO loading screen.

The custom loading screen is only for when iGO Primo is loading. It is purely software and has no relation to the firmware side of the headunit.

I remember seeing the setting for the auto start / nav button. Thanks for the info!!

Originally Posted by Darkoz

Turn off overview in the settings

There are a few "settings" in the different menus. The only one I saw with overview on it was the 3D/2D overview. I selected or un selected everyone I saw, nothing seemed to stop the changing view.

Originally Posted by SC328i

I remember seeing the setting for the auto start / nav button. Thanks for the info!!

where?

Originally Posted by lfhdez

where?

Press the NAVI button at the bottom right of the Dynavin, then choose Setup/Navigate Setup, then check to start automatically

Originally Posted by Darkoz

Yep that's a very good resource for maps
Here's some links to sites with lots of info and downloads (you'll need to register for free to gain access to downloads)......

http://fixmygps.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=17
http://www.mobilepassion.org/viewfor...2db1aa99839eaf
http://gpsunderground.com/forum/foru...GO-GPS-Systems
http://www.austech.info/gps/ (Australian site but still useful)

Thanks for those links. A few hours of reading and I feel a little smarter about iGo.

I'm having a bit of an issue with the sound dropping out while in navigation mute. I get short audio drop outs when the voice directions or other navigation beeps and audio would normally be. This is when I have the audio muted in the main screen on the little speaker icon in the diMkaWA skin.

Below is how my sys.txt is written.

[sound]
ding=0
pause_mp3_sooner=1
queue_length=200
mute_os_key=1
maneuver_chimes=0
sound_muted=1
voice_muted=0
wheelsound=1
dynamic_volume_type=0

[tts]
tts_buffer=131072
announce_exit_directions=1
tts_logics=3
priority="HIGH"
always_say_road_name=1
announce_street_name=1
skip_exit_numbers=0


Thoughts?

A member recently requested a write up of getting TTS (Text To Speech, which pronounce street names during navigation) voices working on Primo 1.1.
There are two different types of TTS voices for Primo, one is Loquendo and the other is Nuance.
I prefer the Nuance TTS voices since they sound more natural and consume less memory which is good since the Dynavin unit has only 64MB of memory.

Firstly you need to download the Nuance TTS voices, there are three different English voices available (I personally prefer the Great Britain, Holly voice).........
Australian - Karen
Great Britain - Holly
US - Samantha

Download Australian - Karen (Nuance TTS_AU.zip) and Great Britain - Holly (Nuance TTS_UK.zip)
here.......
http://fixmygps.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=1244

And download US - Samantha (MobileNavigatorTTSNuance-English.rar) here (password to open this downloaded file = MOBILEPASSION.ORG)
http://www.fileserve.com/file/XRgyQ3...ce-English.rar

Once you've downloaded the files you need to extract them to a folder on your computer using Winrar or Winzip.
Now you can copy the files to your Primo folder, so for instance using Karen AU as an example, the following folder and file structure should be like this (folders are in bold text).........

Primo\
vautov5.dll

Primo\tts_nua_v5\common\speech\components\
pp.dat

Primo\tts_nua_v5\ena\speech\components\
apdb_Karen_NNG.dat
apdb-cs_Karen_NNG_f22.dat
depes_ena.dat
depes_ena_Karen.dat
phonmap_ena_Karen.dat
sapi5_conv_ena.dat
synth_Karen_dri40_vssq5_f22.dat
sysdct_ena_cfg2.dat
tokentn_ena.dat
uselect_Karen_dri40.dat

Primo\tts_nua_v5\ena\speech\vautov5\
vauto_pipeline_ena_karen_22_dri40_vssq5f22.hdr
vauto_sapi5_phonmap_ena.hdr

Primo\Content\Voice\
Voice_TTS-nua-Eng-au-Karen V1.1.zip

That's it, now you just choose the TTS voice you want in the Primo settings.
Note that when you choose a TTS voice the confirmation test sound takes a little longer than the regular non TTS voices.

On a side note, for a bit of fun and to impress your friends, (or make them think you're a complete knob) you can edit the Nuance TTS voice to say your name when you are over the speed limit.
Go to your main Primo folder then go to the content\voice folder
Then double click on one of the Nuance TTS voice .zip files, I use Winrar to edit .zip or .rar files which I find better and easier than Winzip, when you double click on a zip or rar file with Winrar you're not actually extracting the file (which you don't want to do here), you're just opening it to edit it.

Now that you've opened the Nuance TTS voice zip file (I'm using UK Holly here as an example) you should have this screen......



Now Open the info.ini file by double clicking on it and you will have this.......



I've shown an arrow next to the line that you can edit so the voice will say your name when you are speeding, of course you can type whatever you want in there but keep it short otherwise it may have problems.
So play around with it and see what works, when your finished editing you then need to save the file by choosing File at the top left and then choose Save.
You'll then get a small dialoge box pop up asking if you want to update the archive, choose Yes.

Note that the only downside with TTS voices is that for whatever reason they are not as loud as the regular voices, I found this entry that you can copy into your Primo sys.txt file which increases the voice volume although I haven't tried it myself yet so I can't confirm whether it hepls or not so give it a shot and see if it helps and if it doesn't then just delete it from your sys.txt file.
**EDIT - I can confirm that it certainly does increase the TTS voice volume quite a bit **
[dynamiccompressor]
compressor=1
a0=56806
thrs=24703
ratio=8
gain=12

And that's about it, I've tried to make it a clear and easy step by step 'cause we know some of you are slightly um 'challenged' with this sort of thing
Have fun.

Awesome. Thanks Darko.

Also, since I just searched and looked through 25 pages of another thread, here is the link I found for the Primo manual. I haven't tried downloading, so hopefully it is still there. I will try when I get home and in the future if the link doesn't work, someone could pm me and I should be able to email or put it on photobucket or something to be downloaded.

http://uploaded.to/file/llbc52

Originally Posted by imdbui

I must be doing something wrong, I keep getting an "error: user interface resolution (800x480) is not supported or skin can not be found."

Originally Posted by imdbui

got it. had to update the data.zip for one that supported 800x480.

Care to elaborate more. Im getting the same error when trying to load Primo. I have the chip from member 2003_328ci. How do you update the data.zip file?

I currently have the WinCE Patch running with the stock iGo 8. But when I swap mem chips with the Primo it wont run because of the resolution.



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Originally Posted by Darkoz

And that's about it, I've tried to make it a clear and easy step by step 'cause we know some of you are slightly um 'challenged' with this sort of thing
Have fun.

Wow... good job Darkoz. It's a very nice and complete write up of the Nuance voices. I wish I would have had this when I was first starting (It would have saved me hours of reading and troubleshooting) but alas, it was not in the cards for me. Regardless, thanks for the write up, I'm sure it'll help anyone who is getting started on the TTS voices.

Originally Posted by 440films

I'm having a bit of an issue with the sound dropping out while in navigation mute. I get short audio drop outs when the voice directions or other navigation beeps and audio would normally be. This is when I have the audio muted in the main screen on the little speaker icon in the diMkaWA skin.

Below is how my sys.txt is written.

[sound]
ding=0
pause_mp3_sooner=1
queue_length=200
mute_os_key=1
maneuver_chimes=0
sound_muted=1
voice_muted=0
wheelsound=1
dynamic_volume_type=0

[tts]
tts_buffer=131072
announce_exit_directions=1
tts_logics=3
priority="HIGH"
always_say_road_name=1
announce_street_name=1
skip_exit_numbers=0


Thoughts?

After muting all sounds except Master and Voice Commands it seems to happen when the entering the freeway and when the different Exits appear on screen as well as when other navigation TTS directions would normally be.

Originally Posted by Darkoz

A member recently requested a write up of getting TTS (Text To Speech, which pronounce street names during navigation) voices working on Primo 1.1.

Darkoz,

Thanks very much for this! Very clear and with pictures!

John

Darko,

I ended up getting the Primo from Chase and it works much better than the one I tried putting together. There must have been a file or something missing in what I downloaded. I looked at the sys.text file and it has the dynamiccompressor section in there, but not as much info. He did have some TTS stuff in the program, but it never worked he said and I never tried it. Here is what he has in it

[dynamiccompressor]
compressor=1
ratio=9
gain=9

I was just going to replace it with what you included in your post above. That is corrrect right?

I do have a backup of what I got from Chase. I am changing a copy of it.

Originally Posted by TRBOVNM

Darko,

I ended up getting the Primo from Chase and it works much better than the one I tried putting together. There must have been a file or something missing in what I downloaded. I looked at the sys.text file and it has the dynamiccompressor section in there, but not as much info. He did have some TTS stuff in the program, but it never worked he said and I never tried it. Here is what he has in it

[dynamiccompressor]
compressor=1
ratio=9
gain=9

I was just going to replace it with what you included in your post above. That is corrrect right?

I do have a backup of what I got from Chase. I am changing a copy of it.

Yes I've tested the sys.txt entry that I posted which increases the TTS voice volume and it works well.
You'll then need to experiment with the master and navigation voice volume settings in Primo to a level that suits you.

Originally Posted by Flybot

Care to elaborate more. Im getting the same error when trying to load Primo. I have the chip from member 2003_328ci. How do you update the data.zip file?

I currently have the WinCE Patch running with the stock iGo 8. But when I swap mem chips with the Primo it wont run because of the resolution.



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Yes it looks like you need a Primo data.zip file that supports 800x480 resolution.
You can download it here, assuming you're not a member of this file hosting site so choose slow download (this is for Primo v1.1 only).........
http://www.rapidshare.com/#!download...1115.rar|40516

Just copy the data.zip file to your main Primo folder replacing the existing one.

I acquired a copy of Primo earlier, but I think it's a generic one as the sys.txt is, well, empty pretty much.

[device]
type="navon_N480"

That's it!

Assuming what I have is a basic (no frills) version, what is the simplest sys.txt I can get away with for a Dynavin e46?

Thanks.