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Old 12-28-2010, 09:35 PM   #21
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** Prices do not reflect Shipping and Handling costs
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I updated for realbmwparts.com. I have to go through the entire checkout to determine Shipping/Handling. I'm bored but not that bored ;)
Thanks though, pretty informative table. Summer 2010, getbmwparts.com was the cheapest for the oil separator kit, I searched pretty much every site, but of course bmwpartssource.com had been introduced post summer 2010.
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Old 12-28-2010, 10:03 PM   #22
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Yes, $150 would be more than fair. But I'm not a vendor. Where I see 'free shipping', the seperator (reg valve) and hoses are higher priced. Might consider adding 11 43 1 740 045 (Oil Dip Stick Tube to Oil Pan O-Ring) $1.12.

To the Ops point, some of these vendors haven't realized their own pricing on the individual parts is cheaper than the kits offerred at a discount. (unless there's additional items in the kit ... maybe instructions, extra bolt, and clamps that add up to the difference)

bavauto.com is the only vender (in my comparison) that offers the kit lower than their itemized part prices.

My guess is the comparion becomes a shipping & handling game; buying the individual parts somehow increases the overall shipping/handling making the kits seem more ideal (excluding bavauto)
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Old 12-28-2010, 10:18 PM   #23
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I bought mine at autohausaz.com where I usually purchase my other parts. I paid $140.76, but they provide free shipping for purchases over $50, so it seems fairly competitive.
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Old 12-28-2010, 10:33 PM   #24
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I have never seen anyone cry so hard for $10-$15. Do what I do: don't fix anything that don't need fixing; total price $0.

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Old 12-28-2010, 10:54 PM   #25
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Yeah sure, and end up with a piece of junk like yours??
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Old 12-28-2010, 11:15 PM   #26
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Oh no!!! FIVE DOLLARS MORE! What will we do now?!!!
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Old 12-28-2010, 11:31 PM   #27
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Old 12-28-2010, 11:56 PM   #28
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I agree with the OP. Oh also to the smart asses who are jumping down the OP's back... You don't belong in this thread. You either don't get the point or are just here to troll. Like most of the ppl on the general forums. Thats a stupid practice on Patrick's part. I am surprised he is still in business. Tbh he shouldn't be if he is going to dick over his customers like that. If you're buying parts from him... Most likely it's DIY which you do because it's cheaper. If he thinks that we're that dumb and or we won't notice then he's sadly mistaken. Thanks for the heads up OP. I'll be sure to never do business with him
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Old 12-29-2010, 08:11 AM   #29
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Oh no!!! FIVE DOLLARS MORE! What will we do now?!!!
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My point exactly....:dunno:
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Old 12-29-2010, 08:34 AM   #30
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My point exactly....:dunno:
It's a matter of principle, not the actual amount. If something is advertised as a "special deal" of some sort, one could reasonably assume some kind of a benefit associated with it. Large or small, but a benefit nevertheless. If it turns out that the "benefit" is paying an extra $5, then the implied promise of the seller is not met.
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Old 12-29-2010, 08:48 AM   #31
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It pays to shop around...don't think for a moment these online stealerships will keep the same pricing. They can change pricing without notice. BMW of North Haven (below) used to have pricing below Tischer...now it is the same as if the writing of this post.

It's not about trying to be loyal or buy from "sponsors" or really advertisers. If your looking for pricing, check around and trust no one seller.

Be aware that sometimes pricing and customer service do not go hand in hand. You sort of get what you pay for so do not expect the lowest price to keep you up to date or notify you when they ship. Also do not expect parts to ship really quickly if you need them right away. They will ship but depending on availability. Most of these other online stealerships you can also call and talk to the person. Most online stealerships I have seen have a much lower inventory than Tischer, but usually get their parts in a couple days unless something needs to come from Germany. Other online stealerships will also bag and tag your items, unlike Tischer where they throw all the little parts in bags and you cannot tell what is what, so try to order an off quantity (if you need two bolts with different part numbers, order one extra).

Tischer does provide good customer service, update you on part availability (for the most part), send out shipping notifications and do a good job at answering emails (don't use PM or post on the forums...they will most likely not see it since they are all over the other bimmer forums also).

My advice is to just shop around. Here is a list (in no particular order) to get you started:

bmwmercedesparts.com
Husker BMW (Auto Group) of Lincoln, NE

realbmwparts.com
Germain BMW of Naples, FL

bmwpartzdirect.com
BMW of North Haven, CT

bmwpartsoutlet.com
BMW of Schererville, IN

parts.crownauto.com
Crown BMW of Greensboro, NC

bmwpartssource.com
Faulkner BMW of Lancaster, PA

Here are some OE and aftermarket online retailers that I have also purchased from:

pelicanparts.com
bimmerspecialist.com
autohausaz.com
bavauto.com
bimmerworld.com
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Old 12-29-2010, 08:50 AM   #32
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Oh no!!! FIVE DOLLARS MORE! What will we do now?!!!
:wow: :wow: :wow:
I don't think that's the issue. It is more that instead of answering the guy when he pointed it out, they just raised all the individual prices to make the kit cheaper than the sum of it parts. Shitty business practice imo.
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Old 12-29-2010, 10:34 AM   #33
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Unfortunate that the getbmwparts guys have gone away I prefer them over Pat even if I am charged ridiculous tax and pickup fee on my orders from Tischer.
We have not gone away....Jason and I are simply crazy busy handling the hundreds of orders, emails, pm's, livechat sessions, etc. etc. that we do on a daily basis here at getBMWparts.com - we don't always have time to monitor forums for threads where customers are trying to get ahold of us or ask questions. Instead, we make ourselves as 'available' as possible via email, PM, and instant message so that we can be quickly contacted.

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Not a chance.....we are still a proud sponsor here, and are happy to assist in any way we can! :thumbup:

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They're still a sponsor, but they don't reply on threads as much so they dont have as much coverage for business. It's like bmwpartssource is the only one here now because they are first to jump into a thread about parts.

But getbmwparts.com ftw.
This is correct, we simply don't always have time to chime in on the daily anymore - but we are always just a quick email, pm, instant message away. Thank you for your support! :hi:

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Sorry I finally voted with my wallet and am now a loyal Tisher customer again. I've always gotten great customer service from them, and at the very least you get a proper BMW invoice.
Jason and I sincerely thank you for your continued business and support! We pride ourselves on our customer service, and do our best to give great pricing to boot! Some others (that love to copy us) may undercut our pricing to try to get some business, however I don't think you'll find the level of availability, knowledge, and service we offer. :thumbsup:

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Not that I'm in the market, thought I'd give a price comparison to help the cause (and provide updated pricing). Everyone's margins are different
All US BMW dealerships purchase the parts from BMW at the same cost. It is then up to the dealership to determine the pricing they want to offer. We strive to provide the absolute best pricing we can, while still holding the profit margin we are required to make our business model sustainable for the long term. We aren't one of these fly by night dealerships that throw up a website and are selling parts around cost only to realize it just won't work - we are here for the long haul! We must keep our already tight margins at a level that allows us to pay all the costs associated with running our business - advertising, sponsoring forums, running special giveaways and promo's, materials, payroll, etc. etc. Also, you often get what you pay for - the price may be less, but how is the company at customer service? issue resolving? knowledge?

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Thanks though, pretty informative table. Summer 2010, getbmwparts.com was the cheapest for the oil separator kit, I searched pretty much every site, but of course bmwpartssource.com had been introduced post summer 2010.

Yes, $150 would be more than fair. But I'm not a vendor. Where I see 'free shipping', the seperator (reg valve) and hoses are higher priced. Might consider adding 11 43 1 740 045 (Oil Dip Stick Tube to Oil Pan O-Ring) $1.12.

To the Ops point, some of these vendors haven't realized their own pricing on the individual parts is cheaper than the kits offerred at a discount. (unless there's additional items in the kit ... maybe instructions, extra bolt, and clamps that add up to the difference)

bavauto.com is the only vender (in my comparison) that offers the kit lower than their itemized part prices.

My guess is the comparion becomes a shipping & handling game; buying the individual parts somehow increases the overall shipping/handling making the kits seem more ideal (excluding bavauto)
Our kit (on special here) is currently 145.00 + s&h....which, from our site and standard discount, is cheaper than purchasing the parts individually. The kit mentioned in the OP is for the cold climate version, and does carry a lower cost than purchasing the parts individually. We honestly didn't know that kit even existed until a customer ordered it a month or so ago - but we've since incorporated it into our parts kit for the cold climate version!

Also worth noting, some companies love to plagiarize our site - and then undercut our pricing slightly. (notice how many of the pics we took ourselves, and part #s we made up - that aren't even real BMW part #s - are copied verbatim) Their policies section that had our exact wordage, and even had getBMWparts.com accidentally left in in a couple places, has since be removed. :facepalm: :thumbdwn:

We aren't going to try to price-compete with these companies as we feel we already bring a competitive price, but more importantly - the best customer service and support in the business, as well as the most knowledge on the parts you're looking for. For doing this for over 4 years now, we know the margins we must maintain to keep our business running - and we will be here for you Fanatics for the long haul! :thumbsup:

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Tischer does provide good customer service, update you on part availability (for the most part), send out shipping notifications and do a good job at answering emails (don't use PM or post on the forums...they will most likely not see it since they are all over the other bimmer forums also).
PM is one of the best ways to get ahold of Jason and myself...we answer everyone we get daily...usually within minutes during normal business hours. I agree w/ the rest of your statement. :bump:



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Old 12-29-2010, 11:24 AM   #34
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Old 12-29-2010, 11:31 AM   #36
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I always check authausaz.com first. After $50.00 bucks it's free shipping.
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Hi Evan, Thanks for your well considered response. I'm a bit embarassed to admit I hadn't know of your E46fanatics section (and thanks to all the other replies which I'll try to get to soon).
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Also worth noting, some companies love to plagiarize our site - and then undercut our pricing slightly. (notice how many of the pics we took ourselves, and part #s we made up - that aren't even real BMW part #s - are copied verbatim) Their policies section that had our exact wordage, and even had getBMWparts.com accidentally left in in a couple places, has since be removed. :facepalm: :thumbdwn:
While I don't know which specific sites you're referring to, in all fairness many of the BMW online parts shops are run by TradeMotion
(as is yours, BMWPartsSource, RealBMWparts, etc.). It's more likely that TradeMotion created a single policy boilerplate to be used by everyone, which may or may not have been modified by the lawyers of the respective dealerships, and that TradeMotion did the copy and paste of xtra-BMW part numbers etc.

I'm not against competition, but I can see TradeMotion setting up shop for one dealership and then selling the same idea to all the others.

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Old 12-29-2010, 12:40 PM   #38
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I agree with the OP. Oh also to the smart asses who are jumping down the OP's back... You don't belong in this thread. You either don't get the point or are just here to troll. Like most of the ppl on the general forums. Thats a stupid practice on Patrick's part. I am surprised he is still in business. Tbh he shouldn't be if he is going to dick over his customers like that. If you're buying parts from him... Most likely it's DIY which you do because it's cheaper. If he thinks that we're that dumb and or we won't notice then he's sadly mistaken. Thanks for the heads up OP. I'll be sure to never do business with him
Unbelievable, never heard such crying over something so petty and obviously an oversight from previous pricing. New members now a days are just bottom of the barrel. :rolleyes: SHOP AROUND, at any given time I can find differing pricing from each and every dealership. Even some within the same month!

Often pricing is listed/set before. Most do not Automatically change some group/kit items to reflect the pricing of changing individual items in the kit. They don't even know what it is until someone brings it up. Nor do they have the time to check every part in database daily in a kit for some sniveling kids. It's not some conspiracy. It's like that at almost every dealership/parts supply. Some may have bought items in inventory at a higher cost or lower. Like I said, shop around. I send a few price quote requests to the dealer/sponsors and see who with shipping is going to be the lowest. I go with that, when almost exact I select the one who has been good to me in the past and/or best customer service.
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I'm not against competition, but I can see TradeMotion setting up shop for one dealership and then selling the same idea to all the others.
This is irrelevant, though. Plagiarizing copy verbatim is at best morally reprehensible and at worst legally hazardous.

I'd also throw a thumps up to getbmwparts.com as I had my question answered in a few seconds by Jason. Hopefully the OEM Outdoor Car Covers arrive in the states before February!
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Ya know, I've got to say I'm VERY DISAPPOINTED. So, this morning I price out the CCV and hoses (cold weather) at BMWPartsSource.com
They have the E46fanatics "special" at $147.00 for the kit PKE46M54CCVKIT.
Sounds like a deal right? So I email to find out what's included in their kit and get this back:
The breather valve and all 5 hoses"
11-61-7-533-400 PRESSURE REGULATOR $ 50.80
11-61-7-533-398 VENT PIPE ................ $ 21.62
11-61-7-533-399 CONNECTING LINE ..... $ 26.12
11-15-7-532-629 VENT HOSE ............... $ 10.71
11-72-7-545-323 VACUUM HOSE BLACK . $10.83
11-61-7-504-536 RETURN PIPE ............. $ 22.05
Well that adds up to $142.13 so we E46fanatics are being charged around five buck MORE.
Furthermore BMW has a CCV repair kit (part number 11-61-7-534-237) that includes the "breather valve" and two of the hoses (Kit includes parts 11-61-7-533-400, 11-61-7-533-398, 11-61-7-533-399) and BMWPartsSource.com was selling the Kit for $88.79 meaning that if you use the BMW kit part number instead and buy the other hoses separately it's $132.38 which is $14.62 LESS than our E46fanatic "special price".
So I send an email, saying hey what's up, and does the BMW kit for $88.79 actually have the valve and the two hoses I think it does? So instead of sending back a nice email (or any email for that matter) THEY RAISE THE PRICE OF THE INDIVIDUAL PARTS to $150.70
What a bunch of crap. That's how you treat customers?
But they still didn't change the price of the BMW CCV repair kit - it's still $88.79 (as of this post). So even with increasing the price of the individual parts, using the repair kit bundle totals out to $137.00. We still pay $10 MORE for the E46fanatics "special" PKE46M54CCVKIT.
Hey, $10, $15 that's not the point. But no reply? Raising the price when I point out an error and still pretending to be E46fanatic supporter? I don't need the knife in the back.
buy the cheaper one and shop around. dilemma solved. /thread
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