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Old 03-25-2011, 09:21 AM   #1
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Exclamation Taiwanese BBKs: arguable quality at an affordable price

I've been made a tempting offer: 8-pot big brake kit with 380mm rotors manufactured by Kido for 2,2 grands USD. Sounds good to me, but I'm not sure whether its good value for the money or not. Any feedbacks on those kits?
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Old 03-25-2011, 09:23 AM   #2
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I am pleased with my Rotora brakes, a US company that is also a less expensive alternative to Stoptech or Brembo. Honestly, I would check them out along with UUC and some of the other known brands. I've never heard of Kido so I would shy away when it comes to something as important as brakes.
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Old 03-25-2011, 03:55 PM   #3
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Call me ignorant but I prefer to stick to a reputable brand for something safety critical like brake components. Brembo, StopTech and even Rotora are good bets.
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Call me ignorant but I prefer to stick to a reputable brand for something safety critical like brake components. Brembo, StopTech and even Rotora are good bets.
ignorant no, biased yes. If you sold kido you would not be saying this! Now that being said brakes are not overly complicated if you break a brake system down no pun intended they are overly simplified. Beside most of the brake systems you buy have most of their parts made in taiwan! the y just assemble them here so they say made in usa lol! Do some research there has to be a few people out there that have used these (or they would not be in business) Now brakes are important, i would not use an unknown manufacturer in a race car, track car etc.
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^ You try it out and give feedback?
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do you have a link to these kido brakes?
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Old 03-27-2011, 08:39 PM   #7
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Everybody should not to know .
Rotara/ Greddy /or maybe some popular brands was made in Taiwan.
Installed in their country and make the logo ,made in japan or other countrier.
So don't trust the brands.I think so.
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Everybody should not to know .
Rotara/ Greddy /or maybe some popular brands was made in Taiwan.
Installed in their country and make the logo ,made in japan or other countrier.
So don't trust the brands.I think so.
I'm pretty sure Greddy (trust) is a Japanese brand.
And I have no idea what you typed.
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Everybody should not to know .
Rotara/ Greddy /or maybe some popular brands was made in Taiwan.
Installed in their country and make the logo ,made in japan or other countrier.
So don't trust the brands.I think so.
I'm pretty sure Greddy (trust) is a Japanese brand.
And I have no idea what you typed.
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I've been made a tempting offer: 8-pot big brake kit with 380mm rotors manufactured by Kido for 2,2 grands USD. Sounds good to me, but I'm not sure whether its good value for the money or not. Any feedbacks on those kits?
You have GOT to be kidding! Brakes are the 2nd most important safety system on the car besides the tires. It's AP Racing, Alcon or Brembo for me. I've looked very closely at what is coming over from Taiwan and am not very impressed at all. They are at least 20 years behind in technology and not even close in quality. Some of the "innovations" go completely against sound engineering principles.

The goal in upgrading brakes is to end up with something superior to OE. If not going with one of the best brands, you might as well stay with the factory ATE's, which are not that bad at all for stock brakes.

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Now that being said brakes are not overly complicated if you break a brake system down no pun intended they are overly simplified.
The argument is not about the complication of a brake system, the argument is about the quality of the components and the construction that goes into each system.

You simply cannot compare a Brembo system to a generic Taiwanese made and branded kit. Brembo has over 40 years of brake design, manufacturing and racing heritage that has established their brand as an OE supplier to a number of manufacturers and race teams. There is a reason they are one of the top suppliers to F1 and Touring Car Championship race teams in addition to being OE equipment for a number of street vehicles including BMW.

To say that all brake systems are the same because they are overly simple to build is to say that all Swatch Watches and Rolexes are the same because they are all gear based watch designs. No, there is a ton of engineering, quality control, craftsmanship and of course heritage and production experience that goes into a Rolex and sets it apart from the mainstream. For some, there is no reason to spend $10k on a watch. I understand that and for that market, there is Swatch, Timex and Casio. For the market that appreciates the engineering, design and production of a Rolex and will not sacrifice quality in the name of price, there is Rolex.

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Beside most of the brake systems you buy have most of their parts made in taiwan! the y just assemble them here so they say made in usa lol! Do some research there has to be a few people out there that have used these (or they would not be in business) Now brakes are important, i would not use an unknown manufacturer in a race car, track car etc.
This is not true for Brembo, none of their parts are made in Taiwan. I also do not see the distinction between a Track vehicle and Street vehicle for braking components. I would want the same level of quality and safety built into both systems. This is a separate consideration from the performance properties.
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The only thing I'd buy from Taiwan to help me stop are a pair of flip-flop slippers for my feet.
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I notice on a lot of Far East knock offs that the price difference is small and the quality difference is large. Buy well engineered parts or don't bother moving from OE.
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