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Driveline, Engine & DME Tuning
Talk about driveline improvements, NA tuning and DME tuning your E46 BMW here. This includes diffs, intakes, exhausts, chips, software and OBD tuning. |
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M54 Oil Pump solution
After years of hearing about this oil pump solution for the M54, I finally ordered one to try on my 330i street car.
What is the problem with the M54 oil pump? The M54, and more notoriously the M54B30, seems to vibrate the oil pump nut off when rev'd above 6000 RPM. The more time you spend over 6k, the sooner the oil pump nut seems to come loose, which is followed by the oil pump sprocket coming off, which causes a total loss of oil pressure. (By by engine) Here's a view of a stock oil pump without the sprocket installed: ![]() What's inside: ![]() The most common solution seems to be to weld the oil pump nut (OPN) on to keep it from vibrating off....even tough the nut is a reverse thread. While this works in the short term, eventually the shaft that the sprocket and nut have been welded to fails, (It literally shears off where it holds the sprocket) and the engine looses oil pressure. Here is an example of how this welding is done: ![]() And the back side of the sprocket: ![]() Another solution that many try is from VAC Motorsports for $200. They offer a kit with a new sprocket and oil pump shaft that must be pressed into the existing oil pump housing. Here's the kit: ![]() ![]() Here the VAC Motorsports shaft has been pressed into the oil pump housing: ![]() And all buttoned up: ![]() Note that the bolt is a reverse threaded, and was installed to VAC's specified torque, and additionally we added Loctite Red to the threads. I would love to report that this simple solution works, but it didn't in my engine. When the engine was torn down after approximately 80hrs or run time, I found the bolt loose to the touch, and the sprocket somewhat wobbly on the shaft. Based on what I found, I would say that it was just a matter of time on my engine before the oil pump drive sprocket came off. I have also heard from numberous other people that have installed this kit, on M54s, M52s, and S52s, and have had oil pump failures. It may allow the oil pump to last a little bit longer than the OEM piece, but eventually it fails. So this left 2 solutions:
Most people at seeing these prices seem to get the VAC kit and hope for the best. For me, this just isn't an option I would be comfortable with. I decided to try a solution that Greg Smith ran on his car, and isn't commercially available, but if you ask nice he can source one for you. The price is more than the VAC Motorsports solution, but much less than the BMW Motorsports solution. What you get is a completely new OEM oil pump housing and internals, with a specially machined drive shaft and sprocket. I would say most of the cost is in starting with a brand new oil pump core, but I'm not complaining. This is one very nicely put together oil pump package: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Taking the sprocket off, we can see what makes this solution so special: ![]() ![]() ![]() Yes, that's all one solid machined piece that the sprocket bolts to: ![]() From a piece of mind perspective, I think this solution is a bargain. |
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Wow that thing looks great. How much $ are we talking about here?
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PM vaio76109 (Greg's unrememberable screenname - I just had to look it up again)
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Keep it clean
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Thanks for posting pics! I've seen pics, just not that detailed.
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how hard is it to replace the oil pump on these cars when it is on jack stands?
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the issue is that you would have o drop the front subframe to get there. Thanks for the great writeup as always PEI.
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The biggest pain is the that you have to drop the front subframe: Disconnect steering shaft and hydraulic lines, disconnect the brakes, and drop the struts. You'll have to have an engine support from the top, as you'll be dropping the engine mounts as well. Pulling the pan and pump in comparison is pretty easy.
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Glad you enjoyed it. I hope it helps people make a more informed decision in this area. |
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now my next question is whether i want to do this myself or give it to a shop to do it.
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You can do it. I've DIY'd my oil pan gasket in my garage (with a cheap hoist). It's very much a DIY if you have one.
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Thanks for the information, I was considering the VAC update but this definitely seems to be a better alternative. For the moment I'm using an LED warning light for the oil pressure incase the nut does happen to come off.
I presume the lock-tite nuts on the later cars are still very much prone to this problem?
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One simpler alternative might be replacing the stock vibration damper at a conservative interval - TxZHP04 did this and said it felt a lot smoother. I think older cars tend to see more OPN trouble primarily because their vibration dampers wear out and usually go unreplaced for years. The problem is that, like a bushing, they can look ok but not work well. Whatever the car's year, they're made of rubber and ~5 years is a reasonable street driving lifespan for them IMO. Infamous racer mrshelley replaces his vibration damper(s) after every 1-2 GA events(!). The more robust and better damping ATI Super Damper is rated for something like 5-10 years depending on how much track you're doing, but it's not allowed in some racing classes. Can you get by tracking the car without the upgraded pump if your harmonic damping is good enough? Maybe. Time will tell. But if you're really hanging out above 6K regularly I wouldn't risk it myself. Fwiw my OPN was on super tight after about 75K of spirited street driving including about 3K miles turboed. Did I rev above 6K much? Sure. Did I hang out there much? No. Quote:
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That looks like a well thought out solution to the issue, opposed to a temporary fix!
Thanks for the post!!
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Awesome info as usual Adam!
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The harmonics is the real issue and only for the 3.0l motor. You can take the 2.8 or 2.5 and just safety wire the nut and you'll be set for what most people do.
I grenaded a motor this year just because it is seeing 6700 on the high banks of Daytona and 6900 when it runs in a draft. This is for at least 10 seconds per lap. After enough laps, the crank broke, the timing wheel exploded, the guide rail on the oil pump chain was broken and the oil pump chain shot all of the rollers out of it. On top of all of that, the harmonic balancer had rotated by about 60 degrees (the timing mark was that far off). In the series I run in, I'm limited by rpm is I like it or not. The N52 motors do not suffer from this problem. This is the most extreme situation and I doubt any of you will ever see this. What usually happens, is the oil pump shaft shears off and the motor blows up (they can run for around 117 seconds without oil pressure). I would suggest this oil pump shaft if you are going to do some racing with the car. As these cars get older and cheaper, people will start to track them. Thing is, what I learned 10 years ago, is finally coming around for everyone else. If you are going to run occasional track days with a regular 330, then you are fine. If you are going to put some serious time on it (5 to 6 hours per weekend) then you might want to look at this option. Most people don't run their car on the track flat out for long periods of time. If you do, just beware of what can happen.
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So the 2.5's are good? And why is this? Undersquare design?
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how about a 2.5 that has the 330 crank in it?
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The M54B25 is oversquare so I guess something to do with its [cast construction, ]comparatively shallower crank bends and [perhaps] the resultant 'lower piston speed relative to engine speed' keep the harmonics from really going.
I'd say it's in the same boat as the 3.0 liter engine. Quote:
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I was going to go with this solution but don't think I need it. I track the car for 4-6 weekends per year. With my s/c kit and the twinscrew's low end torque, I really don't need to hang above 6k rpm too much. In fact, I think my car does best between 3.5k rpm to 6k rpm.
I've concluded from past threads, the Greg Smith solution is the only way to go if you're going to go through the time and expense to do this. |
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