647Whp through the stock exhaust! :)

Jason@proefi · 04-19-2011, 11:37 AM

We have been having some fun doing some testing on my M3. I had a blow off valve failure that catastrophically exploded my stock intake manifold. So the guys over at Saad racing built me a REALLY nice Aluminum one to replace it. Once this was in place, I decided it was time to turn up the boost a bit and see where the stock exhaust was done. 643Whp with 15 PSI of boost on top was the result, it started to get pretty unhappy over 6k, backpressure was at 35psi on top! So ofcourse we decided to drop the stock catback and see where it would go. As luck would go...we were up about 40WHP at 6k with the same boost when one of the stock coils decided to go in to the light! So that ended our night. Dyno graph to follow with some pics of the new intake manifold.

Edit: 643... (it was late)

Jason@proefi · 04-19-2011, 11:52 AM

lrinco01 · 04-19-2011, 12:03 PM

WoW !!!!

thats unreal but good to know.... 643 whp on stock exhaust & coils? damn!

SweTurbo · 04-19-2011, 12:19 PM

Jason , care to enlighten us on what kind of igniter you're using , or does the ProEfi have igniters built in ?

I'm really looking forward to seeing what numbers E85 will produce on a built kit

Jason@proefi · 04-19-2011, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pir4t

Jason , care to enlighten us on what kind of igniter you're using , or does the ProEfi have igniters built in ?

I'm really looking forward to seeing what numbers E85 will produce on a built kit

Just standard Bosch ignitors...nothing special!

InDiGlOM3 · 04-19-2011, 02:44 PM

Coils are a hit and miss it seems, my Coils are 3 years old now and ive never had a problem all the way to 700whp

MachRc · 04-19-2011, 02:59 PM

As long as they are not Bremi coils stock Bosch coils are great.

pix of manifold!

MSpired · 04-19-2011, 03:11 PM

What percentage ethanol was this at approximately?

X2 for pics of the mani

MSpired · 04-19-2011, 03:13 PM

Oh, and do it right, go with the Plasma coils

SweTurbo · 04-19-2011, 03:35 PM

If you guys thought jason and me were talking about the coils , we were not.

We were talking about the igniter(s) which the stock DME has built in, aftermarket ECU's tend to use external igniters(which is what i take jason has used a bosch one) or coils which have igniters built in(only know of V.A.G 115-R who fit's the M/S 50 engine)

HPF Chris · 04-19-2011, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSpired

Oh, and do it right, go with the Plasma coils

We will be coming out with HPF coils in the near future, so stay tuned. We will also be releasing our new HPF engine cover that has ducting and vents to allow the coils to cool properly so they don't overheat and fail.

Chris.

Jason@proefi · 04-19-2011, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPF Chris

We will be coming out with HPF coils in the near future, so stay tuned. We will also be releasing our new HPF engine cover that has ducting and vents to allow the coils to cool properly so they don't overheat and fail.

Chris.

Hey Chris...no thread Hi-Jacking!!!!

Your coils that you haven't come out with yet...didn't help me last night!

J/K ofcourse!

HPF Chris · 04-19-2011, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason@proefi

Hey Chris...no thread Hi-Jacking!!!!

Your coils that you haven't come out with yet...didn't help me last night!

J/K ofcourse!

Ha ha. They will when they're done.

I'd like to have a coil alternative that is much cheaper.

Chris.

SweTurbo · 04-20-2011, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPF Chris

Ha ha. They will when they're done.

I'd like to have a coil alternative that is much cheaper.

Chris.

Sorry jason to threadjack again.

Chris is there any chance you would build some coils that have built in igniters ?
I know of alot of people who don't really like the VAG ones and would like a S54/M54 part *hint*

0-60motorsports · 04-20-2011, 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPF Chris

Ha ha. They will when they're done.

I'd like to have a coil alternative that is much cheaper.

Chris.

Me and my friend will def going for the engine cover and new HPF coils once they come out

Thanks Chris

Rollin330i · 04-20-2011, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hpf chris

ha ha. They will when they're done.

i'd like to have a coil alternative that is much cheaper.

Chris.

yes, please!

xixixi · 04-21-2011, 04:57 PM

You said 67% ethanol. How did you come up with the %? Does something output the %? Was this a "premix" you made? I know I've been beating this to death. I'm just looking for some solid answers/info? Was this from a pump? If it is from a pump was it "sold" as e85? I Awesome numbers!

InDiGlOM3 · 04-21-2011, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xixixi

You said 67% ethanol. How did you come up with the %? Does something output the %? Was this a "premix" you made? I know I've been beating this to death. I'm just looking for some solid answers/info? Was this from a pump? If it is from a pump was it "sold" as e85? I Awesome numbers!

there is an in tank sensor that says how much ethanol is in the tank, the percentage........this has been said 10 times in each of jasons threads..

xixixi · 04-22-2011, 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InDiGlOM3

there is an in tank sensor that says how much ethanol is in the tank, the percentage........this has been said 10 times in each of jasons threads..

Yes, was it from a pump or premix?

basar13 · 04-22-2011, 06:21 AM

Thanks for working with s54 .... Waiting your ems for my ///M Z4

04-19-2011, 11:37 AM	#1
Jason@proefi Past Site Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: arizona Posts: 1,173 My Ride: 05 M3 View My Garage	647Whp through the stock exhaust! :) We have been having some fun doing some testing on my M3. I had a blow off valve failure that catastrophically exploded my stock intake manifold. So the guys over at Saad racing built me a REALLY nice Aluminum one to replace it. Once this was in place, I decided it was time to turn up the boost a bit and see where the stock exhaust was done. 643Whp with 15 PSI of boost on top was the result, it started to get pretty unhappy over 6k, backpressure was at 35psi on top! So ofcourse we decided to drop the stock catback and see where it would go. As luck would go...we were up about 40WHP at 6k with the same boost when one of the stock coils decided to go in to the light! So that ended our night. Dyno graph to follow with some pics of the new intake manifold. Edit: 643... (it was late) Last edited by Jason@proefi; 04-19-2011 at 11:45 AM.

04-19-2011, 12:03 PM	#3
lrinco01 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ft.Hood,TX -- Afghanistan Posts: 848 My Ride: 01HPF Stg2 M3, 11'X5 View My Garage	WoW !!!! thats unreal but good to know.... 643 whp on stock exhaust & coils? damn! __________________ Leonel Aka " Rico" BMWCCA # 403748 01 BMW E46 M3 / 6 SPD / Tiag / Imola HPF Stg.2 on the new Pt6766 Turbo/ Open Dump/ AA Lightweight flywheel/ Aggressive Tune good for 661 RWHP! 2012 X5D 3.5i - Family hauler 2000 323ci - work in progress - wife's D/D *FOR SALE:* http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=727953

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InDiGlOM3 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Copperas Cove Posts: 1,368 My Ride: HPF M3 stg 2.5 View My Garage	Coils are a hit and miss it seems, my Coils are 3 years old now and ive never had a problem all the way to 700whp __________________

04-19-2011, 02:59 PM	#7
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MSpired Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA Posts: 4,060 My Ride: HPF Stage 2.5 e46 M3 View My Garage	What percentage ethanol was this at approximately? X2 for pics of the mani __________________

04-19-2011, 11:52 AM	#2
Jason@proefi Past Site Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: arizona Posts: 1,173 My Ride: 05 M3 View My Garage

04-19-2011, 12:19 PM	#4
SweTurbo Banned User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Europe Posts: 2,899 My Ride: 323i -98 View My Garage	Jason , care to enlighten us on what kind of igniter you're using , or does the ProEfi have igniters built in ? I'm really looking forward to seeing what numbers E85 will produce on a built kit

04-19-2011, 03:13 PM	#9
MSpired Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA Posts: 4,060 My Ride: HPF Stage 2.5 e46 M3 View My Garage	Oh, and do it right, go with the Plasma coils __________________

04-19-2011, 03:35 PM	#10
SweTurbo Banned User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Europe Posts: 2,899 My Ride: 323i -98 View My Garage	If you guys thought jason and me were talking about the coils , we were not. We were talking about the igniter(s) which the stock DME has built in, aftermarket ECU's tend to use external igniters(which is what i take jason has used a bosch one) or coils which have igniters built in(only know of V.A.G 115-R who fit's the M/S 50 engine)

04-21-2011, 04:57 PM	#17
xixixi Banned User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: St Louis, MO Posts: 3,010 My Ride: 01 330x-xi View My Garage	You said 67% ethanol. How did you come up with the %? Does something output the %? Was this a "premix" you made? I know I've been beating this to death. I'm just looking for some solid answers/info? Was this from a pump? If it is from a pump was it "sold" as e85? I Awesome numbers! Last edited by xixixi; 04-21-2011 at 04:59 PM.

04-22-2011, 06:21 AM	#20
basar13 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Turkey Posts: 474 My Ride: Z4M, Audi R8, 525xd View My Garage	Thanks for working with s54 .... Waiting your ems for my ///M Z4

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