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Old 05-27-2011, 11:50 PM   #61
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This thread is exciting. Can't wait.
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Old 05-28-2011, 01:54 AM   #62
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Old 05-28-2011, 04:33 AM   #63
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Good job guys, waiting to see the kit officially released soon
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Old 05-28-2011, 05:46 AM   #64
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Old 05-28-2011, 07:01 AM   #65
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Old 05-28-2011, 10:01 AM   #66
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You can make a lot more then 400hp on the factory clutch without issue, unless you're assuming a huge torque figure, but then you should say that not 400hp.
No you can't, this has been proven in AA, VF, ESS and Hpf cars.
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Old 05-28-2011, 01:47 PM   #67
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This is exciting news. Stock ECU is the way to go!

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No you can't, this has been proven in AA, VF, ESS and Hpf cars.
Umm... lolwut?

I have several friends with 450-500rwhp e46 M3s with the stock clutch, tens of thousands of miles, no issues.

Torque is what wears out clutches, not HP.
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Old 05-28-2011, 02:10 PM   #68
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No you can't, this has been proven in AA, VF, ESS and Hpf cars.
i made 440whp supercharged on the stock clutch
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Old 05-28-2011, 02:17 PM   #69
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Umm... lolwut?

I have several friends with 450-500rwhp e46 M3s with the stock clutch, tens of thousands of miles, no issues.

Torque is what wears out clutches, not HP.
I tried to allude to this and give him the benefit of the doubt of just having misspoken or was trying to say that all cars that make 400hp also make 500 torque , but then he cited SC cars as reference, so he's probably just talking out of his rear again.


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No you can't, this has been proven in AA, VF, ESS and Hpf cars.
Quite the opposite, but whatever floats your boat.



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Old 05-28-2011, 03:15 PM   #70
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i made 440whp supercharged on the stock clutch
You can make it but how long did you use it and how hard did you use it during that period?
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Old 05-28-2011, 03:25 PM   #71
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You can make it but how long did you use it and how hard did you use it during that period?
I ran about that much hard as hell on and off track. That much is no problem, closer to 500 is where things start getting sketch.
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I think radowski probably knows a thing or two about getting a clutch to hold the power.
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My old AA setup was 440rwhp and the new owner has 500rwhp and we were on the stock clutch. Not sure it would be good for 10k though.
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I ran about that much hard as hell on and off track. That much is no problem, closer to 500 is where things start getting sketch.
i'm assuming your refering to 500rwtq?

just asking cause i prefer the oem organic over say feramic. i'm just trying to figure out what people have managed to put down and for how long on the oem.
(e.g. can you flat shift a hpf stage 1 on pump and be alright? thats only just over 300rwtq)
also, is maxpsi planning on using the stock intake plenum as well?

would be a very comfortable daily IMO.

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This is exciting news. Stock ECU is the way to go!



Umm... lolwut?

I have several friends with 450-500rwhp e46 M3s with the stock clutch, tens of thousands of miles, no issues.

Torque is what wears out clutches, not HP.
Again more BS from you, you and your friends driving your cars through puddles of water us not hard driving. The stock pressure plate simply starts to fail with hard driving. Sure you can get a couple of thousand miles put of it but it will fail. Add an SMG in there and you have an abused clutch and pressure plate very soon
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I assume that since it's tuned off the stock DME that there would be just one map available like pump mode?

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the HPF feramic clutch feels pretty much the same as factory. same pedal pressure and engagment.
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i'm assuming your refering to 500rwtq?

just asking cause i prefer the oem organic over say feramic. i'm just trying to figure out what people have managed to put down and for how long on the oem.
(e.g. can you flat shift a hpf stage 1 on pump and be alright? thats only just over 300rwtq)
also, is maxpsi planning on using the stock intake plenum as well?

would be a very comfortable daily IMO.
No definitely did not mean 500tq.

You shouldn't flat shift ANY clutch. *without being an idiot* the stock clutch can hold toward 400wtq. 350tq peak torque would be a SC kit that makes roughly 500whp. I think I had about 330 peak torque and I abused the hell out of my clutch.

One thing I will agree with is SMG is a whole nother bag of worms entirely, but it is around the same so long as it's operating correctly and doesn't blow it.
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the e46 market is going to turn into the supra market. everyone is going to have a go at it.
and that stock manifold is gna go pop
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oh and it reminds me of c2motorsports for vw's . if anyone knows that stuff. doing turbo kits for n/a cars and using stock dme.
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