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Old 06-27-2011, 01:38 PM   #1
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Rifle Target Sizes

My local outdoor range has 50 yard and 100 yard target stations. They require you to use their targets, which are labled as "Official 50 yard blah blah somethingorother".

Is shooting at a 50 yard target that is placed at 100 yards really like shooting at a greater distance from a target size perspective (200 yards, if the target size is exponential)? I'm basing this theory on the 25m zero target, where the silhouette is small at 25m to simulate the perspective of a person at 300m.
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Old 06-27-2011, 01:46 PM   #2
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It may LOOK like it, but the true practicality isn't there. Reason being: You'd have to compensate for bullet drop, wind, and other factors if you add another 100 yards. Hitting dead center on a target the size of a sheet of paper is the same as hitting dead center on a target the size of a large piece of poster board at 100 yards.

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I'm talking about just the perceived size of the target.
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I'm talking about just the perceived size of the target.
Shooting a smaller target at the same distance does simulate distance I guess (things get smaller as the go further out), but it doesn't affect accuracy in regards to placement.

Also depends on your scope. If your line of sight in zoomed in on the target, size doesn't really matter.

I say it's more of an illusion. As mentioned, windage, bullet drop and travel trajectory are not affected by the size of a target.
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Shooting a smaller target at the same distance does simulate distance I guess (things get smaller as the go further out), but it doesn't affect accuracy in regards to placement.

Also depends on your scope. If your line of sight in zoomed in on the target, size doesn't really matter.

I say it's more of an illusion. As mentioned, windage, bullet drop and travel trajectory are not affected by the size of a target.
The rifle isn't scoped. I'm using a 4 moa red dot. I'm just going to ask if I can use my own 100 yard targets, or maybe they were just out of them.
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The 50yd and 100yd targets have multiple purposes, depending upon configuration. If they are gridded with squares for correction, the 50yd target should have grids half the size of a 100yd target since 1MOA@100yds = .5 MOA@50yds. If you're a half MOA low at 50, you need to adjust 1MOA up to compensate (the same goes with 2MOA low at 200yds, etc).

The second purpose is for competition shooting and the prescribed size of a target. This is often dictated by NRA marksmanship standards. It's for proper scoring purposes.

The other purpose is for having a proper sight picture and simulating a distant target at closer range. If you shoot a 50yd target at 100yds, it will just look smaller than it should. It'll be like shooting a 100yd target at 200yds.

For just shooting a target to blow off ammo, I don't see a problem with shooting whatever the hell you want. Some ranges prohibit silhouette and "realistic" targets because they are not P.C. or could be offensive. The old bullseye targets are basically worthless for most of the shooting that occurs today; with the exception of NRA and CMP type shooting competition. I assume those targets are likely bullseye targets?
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The 50yd and 100yd targets have multiple purposes, depending upon configuration. If they are gridded with squares for correction, the 50yd target should have grids half the size of a 100yd target since 1MOA@100yds = .5 MOA@50yds. If you're a half MOA low at 50, you need to adjust 1MOA up to compensate (the same goes with 2MOA low at 200yds, etc).

The second purpose is for competition shooting and the prescribed size of a target. This is often dictated by NRA marksmanship standards. It's for proper scoring purposes.

The other purpose is for having a proper sight picture and simulating a distant target at closer range. If you shoot a 50yd target at 100yds, it will just look smaller than it should. It'll be like shooting a 100yd target at 200yds.

For just shooting a target to blow off ammo, I don't see a problem with shooting whatever the hell you want. Some ranges prohibit silhouette and "realistic" targets because they are not P.C. or could be offensive. The old bullseye targets are basically worthless for most of the shooting that occurs today; with the exception of NRA and CMP type shooting competition. I assume those targets are likely bullseye targets?
Yep, regulation NRA targets. Most of the shooters at this range are good old boys with hunting rifles. I have been there twice and I have yet to see another modern rifle with a red dot on it, everything is scoped.

I really prefer the local indoor ranges because they allow you to use whatever target you like, and you can actually pull the trigger more than once every two seconds.
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