Kansas E46 Fanatics listen up!

Originally Posted by PerkM3

Hallett DE Info:

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=863863

Those that swear they want to become better drivers are crazy if they miss this.

How do those events work? Do I need any experience? Do I use my personal car? Do I need any special equipment?

I'd love to get some formal instructing, but i've never been on a course, and my 323 isnt exactly a track car!

Experiance is not requred. The idea is to drive your own car. You'll need jeans and a snell rated helmet.

My stance on the experiance thing is its not a bad idea to try just one track day before you go for a full out DE. It may depend on your instructor, but you may be pushed at a DE. Not a big deal if you've not been out though, that's the idea. To learn!

Originally Posted by Andy2108

Experiance is not requred. The idea is to drive your own car. You'll need jeans and a snell rated helmet.

My stance on the experiance thing is its not a bad idea to try just Not a bid deal if you've not been out though, that's the idea. To leanr! one track day before you go for a full out DE. It may depend on your instructor, but you may be pushed at a DE.

Are you drunk?

Lol sorry, I had a real hard time reading that.

Posting on a possessed phone... mixed a sentence up.

Gotcha, so you're saying a track day might be beneficial before trying an actual DE(driving experience?). I guess that makes sense....

I thought DE stands for drivers ed.

IDK, tbh. I've only done 2 track days, but now I'm comfortable enought to really learn a lot in just a day or two, and Ill be much more receptive to instructions.

You would be fine going to a DE with no prior experiance.

Originally Posted by Rubenk

You were raving about how great they were, so I just had to check one out!



Does it come with a mullet wig?

Already have one. Car is literally coming from a trailer park lol.

Originally Posted by Rubenk

How do those events work? Do I need any experience? Do I use my personal car? Do I need any special equipment?

I'd love to get some formal instructing, but i've never been on a course, and my 323 isnt exactly a track car!

No experience, use your car, and all you need is a helmet. A 323 would be fine. The slower the car the better, this teaches you to use the momentum of the car and concentrate more on braking and driving the correct line.

Originally Posted by Andy2108

Experiance is not requred. The idea is to drive your own car. You'll need jeans and a snell rated helmet.

My stance on the experiance thing is its not a bad idea to try just one track day before you go for a full out DE. It may depend on your instructor, but you may be pushed at a DE. Not a big deal if you've not been out though, that's the idea. To learn!

You ask any instructor and they will disagree with you. All young/new drivers care about is going fast, they could care less about how to drive or anything. That's the last thing that matters. All driving on track before (without an instructor) is give you the idea that you know what you're doing. I did this, and it was a waist of a HPT touring club. All you do is practice bad techniques. Do a DE first

Originally Posted by Rubenk

Gotcha, so you're saying a track day might be beneficial before trying an actual DE(driving experience?). I guess that makes sense....

False. DE should be the first thing you do as mentioned above.

Originally Posted by Andy2108

I thought DE stands for drivers ed.

IDK, tbh. I've only done 2 track days, but now I'm comfortable enought to really learn a lot in just one day, and Ill be much more receptive to instructions.

You would be fine going to a DE with no prior experiance.

HPDE stands for High Performance Driving Event.

Edit: How can you recommend one thing or another is better when you haven't experienced both.

Practice doesn't make perfect, perfect practice makes perfect. So why practice something that you've never done before.

Thanks for the input Brad!

I think I need brakes, but i've got time to put new ones on before hitting the track I guess. I dont think i'd be driving that hard my first time out anyways.

Originally Posted by Rubenk

Thanks for the input Brad!

I think I need brakes, but i've got time to put new ones on before hitting the track I guess. I dont think i'd be driving that hard my first time out anyways.

I edited my previous statement. I just don't get it.

So my next question is how does the pricing work?

2 Day Student Registration is only $289!
3 Day Student (Pre-Approved only) is $379.
Instructors are $119 and include a free shirt.

Does that mean I pay 289 for the track time, and then an extra 119 to have an instructor?

Originally Posted by Rubenk

So my next question is how does the pricing work?

2 Day Student Registration is only $289!
3 Day Student (Pre-Approved only) is $379.
Instructors are $119 and include a free shirt.

Does that mean I pay 289 for the track time, and then an extra 119 to have an instructor?

The $289 covers everything. 8 sessions on track and 6 classroom sessions. The classroom will be better than it ever has been before. They are using a new system by Ross Bentley (pro race car driver of 20 + years, and pro race teacher).

Ah nevermind, I got all excited without even looking at the track location...I think its too far away for me to attend...

Originally Posted by Rubenk

Ah nevermind, I got all excited without even looking at the track location...I think its too far away for me to attend...

If I can make the drive in my car then you can make it.

The Porche club has a DE at Heartland Park in October and next April.

These events don't allow my car do they

Originally Posted by Atlin

These events don't allow my car do they

I know the BMW one doesn't for sure but I'm not sure about the Porche DE, I know the Porche club allows boxsters.

I couldn't believe how steep of a learning curve I was on when I went out on course for the first time with an instructor. It's super important not to compare yourself to others or you might not have fun. I'm doing the hallet de with brad, I'll be in my "stanced" 323ci, but I'm still gonna have fun.

Originally Posted by PerkM3

I know the BMW one doesn't for sure but I'm not sure about the Porche DE, I know the Porche club allows boxsters.

Who would I talk to to get my M3 into their mix?

Originally Posted by PerkM3

I know the BMW one doesn't for sure but I'm not sure about the Porche DE, I know the Porche club allows boxsters.

boxsters, s2000s and audi TT's have big huge roll bars.

Originally Posted by Bigjake

I couldn't believe how steep of a learning curve I was on when I went out on course for the first time with an instructor. It's super important not to compare yourself to others or you might not have fun. I'm doing the hallet de with brad, I'll be in my "stanced" 323ci, but I'm still gonna have fun.

+1 You can't understand it until you experience it.

I may be going, I may not. I have to decide what's a bigger priority, gears or DE? Plus, I have to drive all that way without window which will suck if it rains. I'm trying to get a truck and trailor from work.

Originally Posted by Atlin

Who would I talk to to get my M3 into their mix?

I have no idea. Let me try and find out.

Originally Posted by Andy2108

boxsters, s2000s and audi TT's have big huge roll bars.

The M3 has the same type of roll bar, it is hidden beneath the rear head rests.