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Old 10-09-2011, 02:10 AM   #1
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Money set aside...anyone else looking forward to the KelTec KSG?

Curious, just sold my KelTec SUB2000 40 cal....was a pretty cool gun. Looking forward to the KSG. The release date will probably slip...but anyone else looking forward to this?

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Old 10-09-2011, 06:18 AM   #2
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Um... I need that in my life.
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Old 10-09-2011, 01:05 PM   #3
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flawed. not only does it look stiff to cock the gun, i've seen videos of people unpressure (timed) not know when to shift to the other barrel. they don't know whether the gun is jammed or they ran out on one side and need to switch to the other. under pressure of life and death and you have to find the little switch. that's even shown in this video with the cop, no one is going to count their rounds under pressure situations.
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Old 10-09-2011, 01:12 PM   #4
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is the vid supposed to show that this is a great gun for both cops and criminals?
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Old 10-09-2011, 01:57 PM   #5
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flawed. not only does it look stiff to cock the gun, i've seen videos of people unpressure (timed) not know when to shift to the other barrel. they don't know whether the gun is jammed or they ran out on one side and need to switch to the other. under pressure of life and death and you have to find the little switch. that's even shown in this video with the cop, no one is going to count their rounds under pressure situations.
Exactly. There seems to be some level of a learning curve to the weapon, and under stress, the key is simplicity. Pump shotguns already have issues regarding loading and short-stroking the weapon. Under stressful conditions, I have seen literally dozens of people short-stroke shotguns and either not load a round, or cause a malfunction. That's just during training.
I like the idea of a higher capacity shotgun, since there are still some agencies that can't use rifles, but for those agencies that can, the shotgun is obsolete for most uses.
For home use I think it actually serves a better function, since the biggest factor that has worked against shotguns is the length of the gun. Bullpups are a fantastic design IMO.


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is the vid supposed to show that this is a great gun for both cops and criminals?
I'm guessing that's likely a narcotics or VICE officer. He looks the part, and that patch on the uniform looked like a Miami PD patch. Miami has a lot of plain-clothes/undercover units.
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Old 10-09-2011, 01:58 PM   #6
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is the vid supposed to show that this is a great gun for both cops and criminals?

I went to buy a Sub2000 and the store had 3 of them.

All three had a split seam in the mag well.

I sold my P3AT because I was not happy with the quality.

I did not buy a Sub2000 due to quality.

The last thing I need is a cheaply made shotgun.

I will stick to Remington, Mosberg, and Saiga.

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I want one for fun. I probably wouldnt trust it with my life. Nightstand has my p226 and for shotguns I'll trust my benelli m3 thats sitting in my basement.

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I think it's sweet but in the end, I think I'd take a standard pump like a 590 or an 870. I think the dual magazines is kinda neat but rather than have that, I think I'd rather just learn how to do slug changeovers quickly.

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Old 10-09-2011, 06:45 PM   #9
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I am buying it for fun and home defense. I think with practice...just like any weapon you own...you can make it work just fine. Personally, I do not see myself going through 14 rounds in a crisis situation, but I can see it at the range. I like it. Main reason I like it is the design and size for what it is. Time will tell though if it is reliable.
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Looks illegal in NJ...how long is it overall, and how long is the barrel? How sad is it that I have to ask these dumb questions?
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