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Old 10-23-2011, 11:27 PM   #101
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yeah right, 4-5 lbs worth.

whatever your excuse is it's on YOUR WEBSITE. you need to fix it

...Size ..Bolt Pattern.. Offset.. ...... Weight..
19x8.5.... 5x120.... +40, +20.......... 24.75 lbs....
19x9.5... 5x120....+45, +33, +22... 25.25 lbs..

So YOUR website says 25.25lbs and now your photo says 29 lbs.

as far as wheels you used in your comparision, they should all be the SAME size and Offsets and the same scale
Yes, it's actually likely that there is a 4-5 lbs difference between the 19x8.5 and 19x9.5 wheels alone. Yes, the website does show the weight of 25.25 lbs but it is not listed specifically for a wheel size or offset chosen. It's merely listed to give you guys a general idea of how much the wheel weighs.

The wheel size/offsets used in the comparison pictures above are:
VMR VB3: 19x9.5 ET22
Alufelgen CS7 19x9.5 ET35
Sportline CS16: 19x9.5 ET22

** NOTE: we did not have the Alufelgen 19x9.5 ET20 to weigh so we used the 19x9.5 ET35 wheel instead. The 19x9.5 ET20 offset wheel essentially could actually be heavier than the weight shown in the picture **
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Old 10-24-2011, 03:12 AM   #102
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That would be cool, but then you would have to either have all of the cars drivers revert their car to stock, so their mods dont affect the test, or have all the drivers have the same mods.
Not necessarily. I am proposing that we test whether a person driving his own car would be able to notice the difference in performance between different wheel diameters, in a blind test. They would not know what size was mounted, they would just be asked if they felt a difference in acceleration, cornering, road feel, braking, and ride quality when going from a 17 to 18 to 19 inch wheel. I am sure that most would notice a difference in cornering between a 17in wheel and a 19in wheel, but I wonder if the difference in acceleration would be noticeable when doing back to back tests. So, nothing scientific, just perception. I suppose that it would not hurt to measure acceleration as well. So, with a test like this, the suspension setup they have would not matter, since they would only be comparing how their car feels to them, not one car v/s another. Of course, if their car is so low that it creates a clearance issue, then it would be a problem.
Anyway, it is just speculation for now. I have no idea if something like that could even be arranged. I also don't know if I could find enough people to agree to have 3 separate sets of wheels mounted on their car for testing purposes. People can be pretty picky when it comes to things like that.

Maybe whoever is posting on this thread for Modbargins would be interested in helping out with a test like this? How about it? Do you want to come to NC, and help out with a wheel test? Or, you could just send me the wheel/tire sets, and I could arrange the tests, take some photos, and post a thread about it on here. I could send the wheels back when we were done, and you would not have to come to NC. Also, you could get some free publicity!

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Old 10-24-2011, 12:58 PM   #103
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Ah youre right, a blind test would be best so as not to include any "I have 19's on... Im pretty sure the car is slower" which is all in the drivers head. I think a sponsored event like that could gather a big crowd provided the right track and networking.
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