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Old 10-30-2011, 12:48 AM   #1
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Guns and depreciation?

i just wonder why guns depreciate so fast. it seems like if you blow through a couple thousand rounds then your gun is worth about half as much as new.
now, they claim guns dont need any service for 100,000+ rounds cycled, which is i guess similar to a car?
now, if you have a car, and drive that for like 3000 miles, theres no way it'll be worth almost half the price as new. but if you have shoot a gun for 3000 rounnds then its like 30-40% off new



considering that if i go to the range and blow through 200-400 rounds a trip by myself...
10 trips... would depreciate the gun massively?
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Old 10-30-2011, 12:52 AM   #2
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Guns don't have mileage only condition. A gun with 4-5 thousand rounds down looks about the same as one with 500.

Guns don't really depreciate much at least in my experience of buying and selling an amount I wont admit to here.

I think 1/10 of original value is about right for a new gun just based off a guess I came up with.
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Old 10-30-2011, 12:56 AM   #3
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I don't know what you're talking about, guns seems to hold their value pretty well. Just like the post above post said, only condition seems to to matter. In my opinion, guns are as good as gold.

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Good guns hold their value VERY well.

Glock, Ruger, etc.

You should be able to get at least 75% of what you paid if you got a good deal to start with.

I have sold many Glocks over $400 each used.
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Good guns hold their value VERY well.

Glock, Ruger, etc.

You should be able to get at least 75% of what you paid if you got a good deal to start with.

I have sold many Glocks over $400 each used.
Yeah, this is the max I'd pay for a newly used glock - and by newly used that would be defined as under 1-2k rounds. It all depends on the gun itself. Certain guns depreciate very very quickly because the demand on the used market is completely dry. The guns that seem to hold value best tend to be the semi/custom 1911 market. Assuming they haven't been beat all to hell.
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i just wonder why guns depreciate so fast. it seems like if you blow through a couple thousand rounds then your gun is worth about half as much as new.
now, they claim guns dont need any service for 100,000+ rounds cycled, which is i guess similar to a car?
now, if you have a car, and drive that for like 3000 miles, theres no way it'll be worth almost half the price as new. but if you have shoot a gun for 3000 rounnds then its like 30-40% off new



considering that if i go to the range and blow through 200-400 rounds a trip by myself...
10 trips... would depreciate the gun massively?
4000 rounds of 9mm will cost you at least $1000; .40 or .45 at least $1500. Don't worry about the depreciation of a $500 gun.
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4000 rounds of 9mm will cost you at least $1000; .40 or .45 at least $1500. Don't worry about the depreciation of a $500 gun.
Or 4000 rounds for $140 in my case...

I cast and reload 9mm.


To the OP what gun/guns do you own that is in question? or are you just asking in general.

I've bought a few guns near retail but only if it has a warranty that I can use as a 2nd owner. You skip out on the sales tax and it usually comes with some goodies(holster,mags,etc).
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Or 4000 rounds for $140 in my case...

I cast and reload 9mm.


To the OP what gun/guns do you own that is in question? or are you just asking in general.

I've bought a few guns near retail but only if it has a warranty that I can use as a 2nd owner. You skip out on the sales tax and it usually comes with some goodies(holster,mags,etc).
i'm getting a P99 walther for $450 with 2000 claimed rounds through it , that comes with a ton of extras
new those guys are in the $700 to civilians for just the gun and 1 mag. and mags for the german guns are retarded expensive.
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Don't hold their value ? I purchased a Colt Python, 6 inch barrel in the nickel finish for $520.00 in 1987. Today's value is roughly $1200 to $1400. Not a bad return for the money.
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Don't hold their value ? I purchased a Colt Python, 6 inch barrel in the nickel finish for $520.00 in 1987. Today's value is roughly $1200 to $1400. Not a bad return for the money.
but if you buy say a walther p22 for like $350, after a couple hundred rounds... its worth like $250
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They do hold value well, unless you drop it and make scratches or extreme holster wear.
If the world goes SHTF, you can use it to hunt and for protection from looters.
It will have more value than gold or money.
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They do hold value well, unless you drop it and make scratches or extreme holster wear.
If the world goes SHTF, you can use it to hunt and for protection from looters.
It will have more value than gold or money.
scratches and holster wear is just appearances..
is appearance that important?
i mean, i wouldnt mind if my work horse gun as some holster wear and scratches...
as watch enthusiasts would say, wear and tear shows character?

i mean, a gun i dont care if its a sig or a wilson combat, is not a patek or a vacheron ...
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i just wonder why guns depreciate so fast. it seems like if you blow through a couple thousand rounds then your gun is worth about half as much as new.
now, they claim guns dont need any service for 100,000+ rounds cycled, which is i guess similar to a car?
now, if you have a car, and drive that for like 3000 miles, theres no way it'll be worth almost half the price as new. but if you have shoot a gun for 3000 rounnds then its like 30-40% off new



considering that if i go to the range and blow through 200-400 rounds a trip by myself...
10 trips... would depreciate the gun massively?
The value of a gun is based on several factors. The two most important factors are whether you are looking at the private party value, or the commercial value. Any gun is like a car when it's used. If you try and trade it in or sell it to a gun store, expect to get taken to the cleaners. Most guns on trade-in or outright sale to a gun shop will only bring in about 25-40% of the original value, and probably between 35-55% of the Blue Book trade-in value based on its condition. If you ever look at a Blue Book value for a gun, a gun will never be anything better than 90% to most gun shops, regardless of how long it sat hermetically sealed in your gun safe 500ft below ground. At gun stores, the profit margin on new guns is extremely minimal; but the profit margin on USED is exceptional. Many shops will turn anywhere from 25-50% profit on a used gun.
In contrast, when being sold as a private party/sale, your gun is worth what the Blue Book says it's worth for the specified condition. You can make up a significant amount of money in a private party sale.
This all does not apply to rare or antique guns, because they go by different standards.

As far as the 100,000rds cycled, there is no such gun that can run that without some kind of maintenance. Most guns have a specified recommended service life of their parts they consider "wear components". A wear item is anything that is meant to wear out under normal use and be replaced. This basically encompasses recoil springs, extractor springs, trigger springs, magazine springs, etc. Most guns can go greatly longer than the recommended service length on their wear parts. The only gun that has consistently shown that the springs need regular replacing is the 1911. You have to keep up on the maintenance of those things or they will not work correctly.
With the exception of a 1911 or a custom-built pistol with very exacting tolerances, most handguns should be serviced when they start to have malfunctions, or the wear on the parts is significant enough to cause foreseeable damage within the not-too-distant future.
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