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Old 02-22-2012, 11:20 PM   #1
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Smile ZHP Upgraded With ST Coilovers

Hi all!

Thought that I would put my two cents out there for anyone who's interested.

Today, I had the ST Coilovers installed on my ZHP Coupe to replace my aged suspension. I would like to thank Jurrien, Gilbert and Jason over at Modbargains for helping me out with all of my suspension questions and helping me to acquire the ST Coilovers. I would also like to thank Chris and Alfie over at Joey's Custom in Santa Maria for installing and adjusting the suspension. They did a great job and went out of their way to make sure I was happy with the install and adjustments.

Now, the results.

When they first pulled the car out of the install bay, it was slammed. And it wasn't even all the way down. As much as I loved the way it looked, it was just a bit too much. So we put it back on the jacks and raised it about 1/2-3/4". I was very happy with that, so we pulled it out of the bay again, and checked the measurements to be sure that it was even. After establishing that, they took it for a quick test drive to check for any rattles, noises, rubbing or "clunking". It was all good and tight. But one of the benefits of them taking it for the test drive, I got to see how it looked coming and going down the street. Just made me fall in love with the car all over again.

So, now I took the car for a quick spin. 30 miles later, through everything that I could put it through (freeway, high speed curves, low speed and climbing twisties, uneven pavement and rough road as well as in-town driving), I knew that I had made the right choice in suspension. It was tight without being bumpy and harsh, smooth without the floaty feeling and handled like it was on rails. Essentially, it handled like a ZHP. The only thing I noticed was that at low speeds in town (under 20 MPH), you could really feel the irregularities in the pavement, but I could live with that. I was worried that the suspension would be too bumpy and stiff, but even my wife commented that it was not too harsh and felt only slightly tighter than the factory ZHP suspension when she took the car for a quick run to the store.

Now I know that my stock suspension was badly in need of new shocks so you might think that this wasn't a good comparison, but I have recently driven a ZHP coupe that had not been modified in any way and only had 42,000 miles on the clock. That's actually how I knew that my suspension was in need of replacement. As for my modifications, the only thing different was that I am running the factory E92 Sport wheels which have the same specs as the factory ZHP alloys, with the exception of being slightly more aggressive offsets.

This weekend, I'm planning on doing a slightly extended test run to Santa Barbara through the San Marcos Pass (HWY 154) which is a combination of slight elevation drops and rises as well as easy curves which run along Lake Cachuma on the north side of the pass, and then long sweeping high speed curves on the south side coming into Santa Barbara. To me, this is a great test as it's not quite freeway speeds (55MPH most of the way), but still fast enough to enjoy pushing the car through the curves without REALLY breaking the law. Enough to really feel the car doing what it does best: Driving and handling the curves. This is SPECIFICALLY why I bought this car five years ago.

To anyone thinking of upgrading their suspension: SERIOUSLY consider the ST Coilovers. I do not think that you will be disappointed. Especially considering the price of these vs. a shock/spring combo. Very good ride, great handling, easy adjustment and the build quality is outstanding.
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Old 03-07-2012, 02:08 PM   #2
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Old 03-09-2012, 07:21 PM   #3
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Lower the front more. Nice 330i. The 335 wheels look really clean on it.
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Old 03-14-2012, 11:10 PM   #4
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Now that the suspension has settled, I may drop it some more. My biggest concern with lowering the front aggressively was that it might put too much pressure on the front, causing it to be too firm up front. But the suspension is so nice, that I may take the chance.
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Old 03-14-2012, 11:17 PM   #5
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Old 03-14-2012, 11:18 PM   #6
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My friend with a 135i just got these last week. I've been hearing extremely good things about them.

Strongly considering these.
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Old 03-15-2012, 10:08 AM   #7
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My biggest concern with lowering the front aggressively was that it might put too much pressure on the front, causing it to be too firm up front.
Not sure I understand what you're suggesting here.
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Old 03-15-2012, 10:12 AM   #8
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My friend with a 135i just got these last week. I've been hearing extremely good things about them.

Strongly considering these.
Hey Gheybe hit me up when you are ready to pull the trigger on the ST coilovers for your E46 vert. I do have quite a few customers in the San Diego and Orange county area that have gotten them installed and nothing but great feedback has came back.
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nice review, these look like a nice set of coils
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Keep this review going. Seems a lot of people are interested in these coils. I am one of them. Curious to know how they hold up over time. If you have any problems with them, please post here.
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Old 03-17-2012, 12:43 PM   #11
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@ TxZHP04: What I was suggesting is that if I lower the front more than the back, then it will shift the weight forward and I'll no longer have the 50/50 weight split. I'm not sure if I'm correct in assuming that's what it is, but I do know that I've had that issue before with other vehicles where the front end starts to "bounce" with too much rake.
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Old 03-17-2012, 01:12 PM   #12
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Update

I have now had these coilovers on for three weeks.

After the first week, I had the alignment done. The coilovers themselves are sitting about 3/4"-1" from the lowest settings, and the alignment went very well. It added about .5 Degs of negative camber in the rear, and about .25 Deg of negative camber in the front, but everything went within factory specs.

I have also had three adults in the car with me, as well as about 100lbs. of cargo in the trunk, and experienced NO rubbing issues. And I am running factory 18" wheels with 34/37 offsets vs. the 43/46 offsets that the original ZHP wheels had. As for tires, I'm running the Potenza RE760's in the factory sizes, but they have a slightly wider footprint than the RE040's.

The handling is awesome, especially considering that now they have settled and they are now quite comfortable. There are a few corners on my way to work that are very uneven (intersections with drainage dips) and I just fly right through them as if they are perfectly smooth. The suspension just sticks like glue with almost NO bounce or unsettling. Those corners are actually more comfortable to take now than before. The normal ride is planted, but not harsh at all. Especially above 35MPH. Below that, you tend to feel the imperfections in the road just a bit more, but that is not a problem at all. After all, how often do you drive below 35MPH anyway?

I will again say: To anyone thinking of getting these, unless you need all the adjustments (for track and such), you will NOT be disappointed with these and I highly recommend these ST Coilovers. And the guys at ModBargains have been a great help.

If anyone has any specific questions, I will do what I can to answer them to the best of my ability as I know that not everyone looks for the same thing in a new suspension.
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What is the kit number you installed?

I ordered the 90222, but I'm pretty sure those are green not yellow
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What is the kit number you installed?

I ordered the 90222, but I'm pretty sure those are green not yellow
The ST coilovers (90222) we have in stock are yellow but if you do a search on google some of them come up as green. It shouldn't make a difference though as long as you ordered the specific ones for your car.
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The ST coilovers (90222) we have in stock are yellow but if you do a search on google some of them come up as green. It shouldn't make a difference though as long as you ordered the specific ones for your car.
Do you know if there is any difference between the two?

Seems some people have a rear-end clunk from what seems to be the springs. Just wondering about the type of feedback your company has received on this product so far.
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I have them atm. Just slam them. I would say they are some soft springs. As the front is only 350lbs and rear is Progressive.

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Do you know if there is any difference between the two?

Seems some people have a rear-end clunk from what seems to be the springs. Just wondering about the type of feedback your company has received on this product so far.
Unless the springs were installed incorrectly then you should definitely not hear any kind of clunking noises. Double check all the bolts and the springs perches are nice and tight.

If you have any questions you can call me directly at 714 582 3330 ext 8004 or ask for Gilbert when you call in.

I have personally had many suspension set ups on my E46's and I will do my best to answer all questions.
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WHat are the spring rates (numbers) on your two front springs? also are you dropped all the way? Please let me know asap thanks.
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Hi all!

Thought that I would put my two cents out there for anyone who's interested.

Today, I had the ST Coilovers installed on my ZHP Coupe to replace my aged suspension. I would like to thank Jurrien, Gilbert and Jason over at Modbargains for helping me out with all of my suspension questions and helping me to acquire the ST Coilovers. I would also like to thank Chris and Alfie over at Joey's Custom in Santa Maria for installing and adjusting the suspension. They did a great job and went out of their way to make sure I was happy with the install and adjustments.

Now, the results.

When they first pulled the car out of the install bay, it was slammed. And it wasn't even all the way down. As much as I loved the way it looked, it was just a bit too much. So we put it back on the jacks and raised it about 1/2-3/4". I was very happy with that, so we pulled it out of the bay again, and checked the measurements to be sure that it was even. After establishing that, they took it for a quick test drive to check for any rattles, noises, rubbing or "clunking". It was all good and tight. But one of the benefits of them taking it for the test drive, I got to see how it looked coming and going down the street. Just made me fall in love with the car all over again.

So, now I took the car for a quick spin. 30 miles later, through everything that I could put it through (freeway, high speed curves, low speed and climbing twisties, uneven pavement and rough road as well as in-town driving), I knew that I had made the right choice in suspension. It was tight without being bumpy and harsh, smooth without the floaty feeling and handled like it was on rails. Essentially, it handled like a ZHP. The only thing I noticed was that at low speeds in town (under 20 MPH), you could really feel the irregularities in the pavement, but I could live with that. I was worried that the suspension would be too bumpy and stiff, but even my wife commented that it was not too harsh and felt only slightly tighter than the factory ZHP suspension when she took the car for a quick run to the store.

Now I know that my stock suspension was badly in need of new shocks so you might think that this wasn't a good comparison, but I have recently driven a ZHP coupe that had not been modified in any way and only had 42,000 miles on the clock. That's actually how I knew that my suspension was in need of replacement. As for my modifications, the only thing different was that I am running the factory E92 Sport wheels which have the same specs as the factory ZHP alloys, with the exception of being slightly more aggressive offsets.

This weekend, I'm planning on doing a slightly extended test run to Santa Barbara through the San Marcos Pass (HWY 154) which is a combination of slight elevation drops and rises as well as easy curves which run along Lake Cachuma on the north side of the pass, and then long sweeping high speed curves on the south side coming into Santa Barbara. To me, this is a great test as it's not quite freeway speeds (55MPH most of the way), but still fast enough to enjoy pushing the car through the curves without REALLY breaking the law. Enough to really feel the car doing what it does best: Driving and handling the curves. This is SPECIFICALLY why I bought this car five years ago.

To anyone thinking of upgrading their suspension: SERIOUSLY consider the ST Coilovers. I do not think that you will be disappointed. Especially considering the price of these vs. a shock/spring combo. Very good ride, great handling, easy adjustment and the build quality is outstanding.
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