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Old 03-08-2012, 09:15 PM   #14381
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Got my SPAL fan today along with the new FCAB's for the 330 and other stuff. The new OEM ones in the 330 only lasted 6,000 miles

RE-11's and PFC-06's are on. Fan going on soon hopefully. I'm still working on my front camber, but I'll be dropping the front suspension 1" soon. Might replace the rear swaybar endlinks too.

Oh, and I'm glad I went with 245's. The RE-11's are pretty meaty... I'll take some pics some time.

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Kinda neat, finished the hot button!
Did you fill the hole and then drill it out? nice

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Old 03-08-2012, 09:29 PM   #14382
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Got my SPAL fan today along with the new FCAB's for the 330 and other stuff. The new OEM ones in the 330 only lasted 6,000 miles

RE-11's and PFC-06's are on. Fan going on soon hopefully. I'm still working on my front camber, but I'll be dropping the front suspension 1" soon. Might replace the rear swaybar endlinks too.

Oh, and I'm glad I went with 245's. The RE-11's are pretty meaty... I'll take some pics some time.



Did you fill the hole and then drill it out? nice
Yes, filled it then drilled it then tapped it. Thanks! Please take pics of the tire/wheel combo!
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Old 03-08-2012, 09:41 PM   #14383
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I will. When the car is clean.
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Old 03-08-2012, 10:04 PM   #14384
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Dude FCAB fail. This makes me all the more glad my news ones arrived today. Pretty sure they haven't been changed ever (just ticked over 45k)
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Old 03-08-2012, 10:51 PM   #14385
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Kinda neat, finished the hot button!
Shoulda used a bigger button...
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Old 03-08-2012, 11:03 PM   #14386
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Dude FCAB fail. This makes me all the more glad my news ones arrived today. Pretty sure they haven't been changed ever (just ticked over 45k)
Wow, thats really low miles. I think I remember say that before.

And yeah, the oem ones suck. If you get the front of your car up in the air, its easy to test them. Just try turning the tire and watch the control arm move around in its socket.
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Old 03-08-2012, 11:46 PM   #14387
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Old 03-09-2012, 12:31 AM   #14388
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Got my SPAL fan today along with the new FCAB's for the 330 and other stuff. The new OEM ones in the 330 only lasted 6,000 miles

RE-11's and PFC-06's are on. Fan going on soon hopefully. I'm still working on my front camber, but I'll be dropping the front suspension 1" soon. Might replace the rear swaybar endlinks too.

Oh, and I'm glad I went with 245's. The RE-11's are pretty meaty... I'll take some pics some time.



Did you fill the hole and then drill it out? nice
I have a hard time believing this. I had the original FCAB's when I did mine at 75k miles and they weren't that bad. Unless they have severe cracks in them then they are fine.

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Wow, thats really low miles. I think I remember say that before.

And yeah, the oem ones suck. If you get the front of your car up in the air, its easy to test them. Just try turning the tire and watch the control arm move around in its socket.
They're rubber for a reason, they are supposed to deflect to absorb road imperfections. The reason people switch to more stiff FCAB's (Poly or solid) is to get better and crisper response.
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Old 03-09-2012, 12:32 AM   #14389
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Who wants to come help me pull a transmission tomorrow.
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Old 03-09-2012, 12:41 AM   #14390
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I have a hard time believing this. I had the original FCAB's when I did mine at 75k miles and they weren't that bad. Unless they have severe cracks in them then they are fine.

They're rubber for a reason, they are supposed to deflect to absorb road imperfections. The reason people switch to more stiff FCAB's (Poly or solid) is to get better and crisper response.
M's have different parts in the first place, but...

are you saying that with minimal effort I should be able to change the control arm suspension geometry by 3/4"? Because that's just about how it is. Even if they're not in that bad condition, I can tell that the poly ones going in will help.
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Old 03-09-2012, 12:44 AM   #14391
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And if you guys haven't seen this yet

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Old 03-09-2012, 12:45 AM   #14392
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Old 03-09-2012, 12:47 AM   #14393
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I looked up the weather forcast in Vegas. I can deal with this...

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Old 03-09-2012, 01:04 AM   #14394
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M's have different parts in the first place, but...

are you saying that with minimal effort I should be able to change the control arm suspension geometry by 3/4"? Because that's just about how it is. Even if they're not in that bad condition, I can tell that the poly ones going in will help.
The rubber in the FCAB from the 330 is not going to be any different than that of a M3. 3/4 of an inch is nothing, it's there for a reason. A BMW especially a 330 isn't made for performance, it's made for luxury and comfort. It's not a porche cup car. I've seen dozens of FCAB's that are torn and covered in cracks, if yours had none of these then they are fine.

For instance, pop your hood, rev the motor, and see how it moves. That movement is to absorb vibration. As it moves the vibration lessons, I know you know this so I'll leave it at that. I bet it moves more than 1" from side to side as you rev it. Now come do the same with my car (solid mounts), there is no movement, thus a ton of noise and vibration.

No cracks/tears = still good, the cracks and tears are the sign of failure. Rubber is not steal which shows minimal signs of fatigue before it fails. Rubber by design releases the oils which are used in the manufacturing process, then dries (looks dried out), then cracks, then tears. I've spent way to much time talking about this.

And yes, the poly FCAB's will help performance but increase NVH.
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Old 03-09-2012, 01:38 AM   #14395
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330 Fcab 31126783376 $144.47

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Old 03-09-2012, 02:32 AM   #14396
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yes i do. m3 fcabs are definitely different than non m
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Old 03-09-2012, 09:13 AM   #14397
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Yea, it was pretty much this guys garage queen. Around 4,000 miles a year, thats pretty absurd.

The way I look at it is this: might as well replace the FCABs. Even if they aren't bad yet, they will be soon enough. And the plastic ones will tighten up the handling a little bit.

And, for the record, I'm gonna have to say that 3/4" of play is way too much on any suspension component. I'll dig my Suspension and Steering textbook out later to settle this. Or actually I can just look up the spec, I bet theres a spec out there for FCAB wear
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Old 03-09-2012, 09:46 AM   #14398
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I replaced the FCABs on my 330 at 85k miles and they were still good... The performance increase to Poly was very minimal, I barely noticed the difference.

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Old 03-09-2012, 09:51 AM   #14399
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330 Fcab 31126783376 $144.47

M3 Fcab 31122229623 $66.10

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Wanna bet that they're different parts?
The price you listed is as follows:

$144.47 for a SET of bushings for Non-M
$66.10 for a SINGLE bushing for the M3
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330 Fcab 31126783376 $144.47

M3 Fcab 31122229623 $66.10

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Wanna bet that they're different parts?
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yes i do. m3 fcabs are definitely different than non m
I'd put a lot of money on that the rubber composition from one FCAB to another is no different. Yeah no sh1t they are of different design and shape. I'm talking material and manufacturer process. I forgot that I'm talking with boys you don't have college degrees here, just google on their laptops.

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The price you listed is as follows:

$144.47 for a SET of bushings for Non-M
$66.10 for a SINGLE bushing for the M3
I don't know but this makes more since.
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