Guess what UUC has? GENERATION 2 FCABs!

Originally Posted by flashtwosix

Rob...you have PM!!!!

I just checked - no PM. Please email me directly, rob@shortshifter.com

Thanks!

Originally Posted by Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks

I just checked - no PM. Please email me directly, rob@shortshifter.com

Thanks!

yes Sir. hope you are not at work. the wife will be mad I am sure. underground upgrade club is not really "underground" when you are always at work you know

Originally Posted by E46Mango

Does this option include a FAT discount on the bushing providing flashtwosix provides a great review?

In for review

Actually, it includes a review of his symptoms to see if a warranty replacement is in order.

Originally Posted by flashtwosix

yes Sir. hope you are not at work. the wife will be mad I am sure. underground upgrade club is not really "underground" when you are always at work you know

If I'm near a computer, I'm working! Wife? None that I can recall, too busy making awesome BMW parts to get hitched.

Originally Posted by Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks

Actually, it includes a review of his symptoms to see if a warranty replacement is in order.

*cough *cough I know I am not the prettiest girl out there but I am sure I don't look like a guy

i will call you tomorrow. thanks Rob!

Originally Posted by flashtwosix

*cough *cough I know I am not the prettiest girl out there but I am sure I don't look like a guy

i will call you tomorrow. thanks Rob!

DOH! Sorry!

flashtwosix, placed an order yet?

Originally Posted by yetieater

flashtwosix, placed an order yet?

yes and we received it last week. UUC took care (amazing customer service/support) of us and this is the #1 why we are such a huge fan of Rob and his amazing company.

tonight we can take a picture of the UUC Gen2 and compare it to PoweFlex and OEM. we can't take pictures of GEN1 since it is installed on the car. maybe I can drop a camera underneath the car with a flashlight in order to take a picture of the GEN1.


Initial impression (this is meaningless since it is all based on assumptions since we haven't tried out the product yet):

total different design from GEN1. We thought that GEN2 will be based on GEN1 with a few design updates but we were wrong.

GEN1 seems more "advance" and is built like a tank (not saying GEN2 is crap).

GEN2 kinds of remind me of the Powerflex design (in terms of construction and material). Again, this is just my observation/opinion and I am not speaking from any level of authority.

Pictures tonight!

Great, I'm looking forward to it and getting your impressions after a test drive

Color me intrigued. Looks like a reasonable long term upgrade if you intend to keep the car for a long time. Definitely interested to see what others have to say about how they ride. Just in time for the suspension refresh I'm planning, too. Let us know what you think, Flash.

If I didn't just replace my FCABs, these would've been a permanent replacement. Very neat design. Why didn't BMW think of the bearing idea?

here you go guys

OEM
UUC GEN2 (red)
Powerflex (purple)

another main difference is that the UUC GEN2 bushing rotates (both the red and black bushing). With the powerflex, only the purple bushing rotates and the black doesn't

I hope this helps!

Go UUC!

Thanks for the pictures! How easy is it to remove the red insert from the bushing? Does it feel like there is any relative motion between the urethane and the rubber? Can you tell if there actually is a bearing between the rubber and the lollipop? Sorry for all of the questions. I'm just curious and you're the first with a hands-on view. Thanks!

How does this new design differ or improve on the PowerFlex design that's been out for years?

Looks the same.

Group buy anyone?

Originally Posted by manaman22

Thanks for the pictures! How easy is it to remove the red insert from the bushing? Does it feel like there is any relative motion between the urethane and the rubber? Can you tell if there actually is a bearing between the rubber and the lollipop? Sorry for all of the questions. I'm just curious and you're the first with a hands-on view. Thanks!

Originally Posted by Alex323Ci

How does this new design differ or improve on the PowerFlex design that's been out for years?

I have to refer these questions for Rob but....

manaman22...removing the red bushing is easy. I am not sure if this is because it is new or not. I remembered my powerflex purple bushings were also easy to removed too. however, today I had to hammer it out the powerflex just so I can take a picture of it (since it was old/used).

I think there is some bearing because the black rubber on the lollipop can be rotated freely.

Alex323...beside the black rubber bushing rotating freely on the lollipop I can't really tell. my only concern is that the Powerflex addressed an issue where their purple bushing piece would shimmed/moved/crawed/etc up into the actual control arm. I think powerflex fixed this by installing a metal square bracket/washer or something like that. Hopefully, the UUC GEN2 doesn't have this same problem. Again, I need to refer this to Rob.

P.S. I need to correct what I mentioned about the UUC GEN2 red bushing and Powerflex purple bushing being able to rotate freely. Both bushing (red and purple) can be rotated but they are not really freely. the only thing that can be rotated freely is the UUC GEN2 black rubber on the lollipop.

Thanks for the info! Even more intrigued. I'd be down for a group buy.

How would these be compared to the well known Meyle hd FCAB's??

Nvm I just saw that it will work with them as well. But I guess in the sense that doesnt Meyle say that theres wont wear out either?

Originally Posted by Alex323Ci

How does this new design differ or improve on the PowerFlex design that's been out for years?

UUC is using a more durable grade of urethane; specifically, the same material that is used in mil-spec parts for both military and commercial aircraft.

What we've done with this design is to place the deformative stress of the control arm insert pin in a flexible zone, eliminating creaking or looseness from aftermarket control arms that are out of spec... our new bushings can be used with any aftermarket arm designed as an OE-replacement.

These improvements and the material quality is what enables us to carry on with our lifetime warranty. You won't ever need to buy another set!

Originally Posted by lakedude90

How would these be compared to the well known Meyle hd FCAB's??

Meyle HD products are generally excellent, in fact we offer some of them. However, the critical difference to understand is that the Meyle HD FCABs are the exact same design as the OE FCABs, just built with better material. What that means is that the part is still constantly deformed with twisting motion. Compare that to the UUC which is a true bearing and twists freely, without stress. The Meyle HD will eventually wear out. And, no matter what, the Meyle still doesn't give that racecar-feel to the front end response that the UUC parts do.