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Old 04-03-2012, 12:14 AM   #41
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Just gotta keep spreading the word, the JuiceBox tunes seem so primitive compared to the COBB Access Port tune. Why struggle installing/uninstalling physical parts in your car when you can spend 15 min or so flashing it through the OBDII port and have the ability to change maps on the fly...including a valet mode....totally undetectable by BMW too since you literally flash it back to stock in approx 15 min.

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Old 04-03-2012, 06:16 AM   #42
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Just gotta keep spreading the word, the JuiceBox tunes seem so primitive compared to the COBB Access Port tune. Why struggle installing/uninstalling physical parts in your car when you can spend 15 min or so flashing it through the OBDII port and have the ability to change maps on the fly...including a valet mode....totally undetectable by BMW too since you literally flash it back to stock in approx 15 min.

Great looking 1, and enjoy your n54 engine. I know I do and my car weights a ton more.
When did this become available? IIRC COBB is still working on implementing this for the N54 version...
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Old 04-03-2012, 06:59 AM   #43
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Just gotta keep spreading the word, the JuiceBox tunes seem so primitive compared to the COBB Access Port tune. Why struggle installing/uninstalling physical parts in your car when you can spend 15 min or so flashing it through the OBDII port and have the ability to change maps on the fly...including a valet mode....totally undetectable by BMW too since you literally flash it back to stock in approx 15 min.
Great looking 1, and enjoy your n54 engine. I know I do and my car weights a ton more.
I would not count on that being "undetectable". The new Ford 5.0's had people claiming the same until warranties started getting denied for tunes.

Ford's method involves a key cycles counter, so even if you have the stock file loaded, the numbers wont match up, E.G., 20,000 miles but only 10 key cycles....

I'm sure BMW is just as, and most likely more sophisticated than the Ford ECU.
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I would not count on that being "undetectable". The new Ford 5.0's had people claiming the same until warranties started getting denied for tunes.

Ford's method involves a key cycles counter, so even if you have the stock file loaded, the numbers wont match up, E.G., 20,000 miles but only 10 key cycles....

I'm sure BMW is just as, and most likely more sophisticated than the Ford ECU.
Correct, BMW's latest software allows them to see when the ECU parameters have been altered. EVEN after the tune has been taken off. There's a way around this though which is working for the time being. (sorry I'm not posting it here in case anyone was wondering, go look on e90post) =)
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Old 04-03-2012, 08:48 AM   #45
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So the chips are only worth it if your out of warranty, or confident if your car isn't going to have a major meltdown?
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What about basic mods like intake/exhaust? Does that rape your warranty?
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What about basic mods like intake/exhaust? Does that rape your warranty?
Typically, with the warranties, aftermarket parts would/should only void what harm that aftermarket part has proven to have caused. I think there's some litigation and documents floating around stating this, can't recall what the case was called.
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Typically, with the warranties, aftermarket parts would/should only void what harm that aftermarket part has proven to have caused. I think there's some litigation and documents floating around stating this, can't recall what the case was called.
It's called the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. However, good luck bringing that up to a SA at a dealership. They'll say ok, and while you pay through the nose for an attorney to go after them your car is sitting broken in a parking lot at a dealer.

The issue has come up quite a bit in the Mazdaspeed community with certain dealership service departments.
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Old 04-03-2012, 09:13 AM   #49
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So the chips are only worth it if your out of warranty, or confident if your car isn't going to have a major meltdown?
Not necessarily. I should state that all the main tuning companies - BMS, Procede and COBB - are confident in that BMW cannot find traces of the tune if the proper procedures are followed before taking the vehicle in to the dealer. The owners pre-2010 had the best run 'cause BMW simply honoured any warranty claim since they couldn't prove the car had a tune... now things are getting a little tougher with the software changes (which BTW doesn't really come into play for basic services and warranty work... it's when you start asking for new turbo's etc that they delve deeper into the ECU to find out if you've had a tune). So rest assured, if you don't drive like an idiot chances are you won't blow up your engine thus needing warranty to replace it. The new HPFP is surprisingly holding up for the majority

evolve: depends on your relationship with your service advisor. Many of the guys on bimmerpost take their cars into the dealer with all mods and the shop guys become really fond of the aftermarket items. On the other hand, my mate took his 135 in for a HFPF replacement (tune was successfully removed) though because he had an intake the dealer blamed that mod for the fault, lol. So the advice is: remove intake prior to dealer visit; exhaust is fine as long as its not downpipes because that can also be blamed for engine component failure.

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Beautiful car man, BUT...BUT...I would kill for that red Mustang in your first picture. Here in Australia, that car would stand out. I would look great in it
my friend owns the dealership.. i can get you set up lol. they also have a yellow 5mt cobra now.

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I see your satisfied with tiptronic, have you gotten a chance to drive this in DCT on 2011+ models?
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Old 04-03-2012, 10:26 AM   #52
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I see your satisfied with tiptronic, have you gotten a chance to drive this in DCT on 2011+ models?
trust me on this, go 6MT. be veryyyy firm on that. while the step is incredible on the car and honestly shifts like most smg/dcts etc. feels way different than a normal auto, nothing can replace the feel of a clutch and that raw driving dynamic. Imo at least. The only things i would change about my car would be 6mt and the coral two tone or natbrau two tone. the car was simply too nice for me to say no. it's pretty much flawless. manuals are just a blast to own. that said sometimes i get busy and enjoy just being able to cruise. really depends. you wont regret a manual that is for sure. unless you are in like downtown LA rush hour.
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Thanks again, I've had a 6spd for 6 years now in my E46 M3, and at this point I can deal with an auto if i get another car. I would really like a DCT though. But I might pick up a cheapy 2008 as my DD with auto, as it would be a high mile car 34k a year. Also, I will always have a weekend car thats 6spd. Unless, in a few years I get an F1 F430 .
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It's rarer to find an n54 Dct than an n55 one, as Dct was only available on 2010 n54s for a 6 month period... So ya, if its your daily just get the auto. They do ok with 400hp and plenty of abuse.
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I found a couple of 2011's around 30k, which IMO is a steal. (with DCT). I would probably push to get a DCT or opt for a 2008 E92 M3, but thats if they total me out.
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ughh. I swear man. test drive a few MT's and re assess. I guess coming from a 6mt m3 you already know though. There will just be those times where you are like damn i wish i had the manual. condition and price weigh in a lot obviously but i would at least test drive/consider the option.

That being said i have never driven the dct, but still it is just that clutch/driver dynamic that is so irreplacable. i basically group dcts/smgs in the same category as an automatic; while all very nice cars, they miss that tiny extra perk that is just a blast to have.
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and the car it replaced. this is why i say opt for the two tone.

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The COBB AP tunes are extremely reliable and have been available for about a year now. They are huge tuners in the turbo game. I have never heard a bad thing about them. (Haven't looked that much to be 100% honest. I have the JB3 plug in play and I'm just waiting for a trip to my shop 1.5 hour drive both ways to have them remove it so I can sell it and upgrade to the Cobb)

I haven't heard about those codes, but I guess its just the risk you run when you mod.

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