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Old 02-25-2012, 07:29 PM   #1
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H&r sport cup kit ride quality

Hey all, I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on the h&r sport cup kit for my 05 325ci w/ sport suspension. I'm wondering how the ride quality and comfort compares to the stock sport suspension? Also, my current wheels are 17x8 1/2" +40 offset. The tires are 245/40/17 square. I'm wondering if a setup like this will rub with the drop?

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ride quality is stiffer but not at all uncomfortable. nice improvement in handling and a good quality product. ive had them for a good 10k miles.
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Old 02-25-2012, 07:41 PM   #3
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ride quality is stiffer but not at all uncomfortable. nice improvement in handling and a good quality product. ive had them for a good 10k miles.
1+ I just installed these about a month ago. The ride is stiff but not Bad at all. You really only feel the stiffness over bumps. Handling has improved drastically. Plus the drop looks great!
You shouldn't rub, I'm sitting on 18s and have no rubbing issues.

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Old 03-01-2012, 05:54 PM   #4
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I just ordered my sport cup kit along with the turner shock mount kit that includes gaskets, front and rear reinforcement plates, spring pads, bump stops and dust boots. I'm excited!
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Old 03-04-2012, 03:22 PM   #5
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^ would you mind sharing costs and part numbers? Either here or in a PM?

I need to order mine, going the same route and need all the same parts...

Hoping my 19's don't rub, but I'm thinking they probably will in the back.

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Old 03-06-2012, 10:53 PM   #6
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^ would you mind sharing costs and part numbers? Either here or in a PM?

I need to order mine, going the same route and need all the same parts...

Hoping my 19's don't rub, but I'm thinking they probably will in the back.

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Maybe this would help...

H&R Sport Cup Kit (31019-3):

http://www.stealthauto.com/Products/...IT-E46-PR.aspx

And follow this link for the part #'s for RSM business (the OP used Meyle HD RSM's + Z3 Reinforcement Plates - a very good combo indeed). I know ECS sells a particular set that includes the RSM's, plates, gaskets, and some of the nuts already, so perhaps order that stuff from ECS and the rest of the required parts from a reputable website, like TheBMWPartStore? Should total to $760-800 in all, when paired with the Cup Kit:

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?p=13956317
http://www.ecstuning.com/ES2075240/


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Old 03-10-2012, 10:50 PM   #7
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I'm going on about 50k with my cup kit and still love it. I've done 1,000 mile road trips, snow driving, autox, and as an all around suspension setup it's great. Coming from an e30 I wish it was a little stiffer but I think a good sway bar setup will take care of that, I would definitely recommend it if you're trying to lower your car without going slammed
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I'm going on about 50k with my cup kit and still love it. I've done 1,000 mile road trips, snow driving, autox, and as an all around suspension setup it's great. Coming from an e30 I wish it was a little stiffer but I think a good sway bar setup will take care of that, I would definitely recommend it if you're trying to lower your car without going slammed
The car is still sitting about 3/4 of an inch front and rear above the advertised drop. I've been told by both h&r and a owner of this setup that they will settle within 1k miles due to the new shocks. Has anyone had an experience like this where a new suspension setup takes a while to settle? Thanks.
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^ seems a little high, but how thick are the reinforcement plates? They would keep your car from coming down as low as "advertised," right? I'm planning to do the same setup, hopefully start ordering parts this week...

I had "slammed" cars when I was younger, so I've been there and have the t-shirt, I was just looking for a slight drop along with new suspension components. If I only get .5-.75" drop I'm ok with that...
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The strut tower reinforcement plates raise front ride height 3 or 4mm. The rear shock tower reinforcement plates do not affect rear ride height.
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Did you guys DIY the cup kit install? (or plan to)

Seems difficult if you don't have a lift. I've done headers.. but this looks more involving.
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^ huh? 3 bolts up top and one below (front)? I've lowered plenty of cars and have never had the luxury of having a lift. I'm thinking 4 hours tops including putting the car on jack stands, taking off the wheels and putting them back on and torquing once finished...
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^ seems a little high, but how thick are the reinforcement plates? They would keep your car from coming down as low as "advertised," right? I'm planning to do the same setup, hopefully start ordering parts this week...

I had "slammed" cars when I was younger, so I've been there and have the t-shirt, I was just looking for a slight drop along with new suspension components. If I only get .5-.75" drop I'm ok with that...
The rear reinforcement plates bolt on top of the towers, so there is no change in ride height. I didn't install the front reinforcement plates as I plan to run a strut bar instead and I didn't want the increased ride height.

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Seems difficult if you don't have a lift. I've done headers.. but this looks more involving.
I think headers is actually harder than this install. The hardest part was compressing the front springs onto the struts, as they are much taller than the shock shaft. Actually installing the components onto the car is very easy.
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Ok, I think I'm ready to pull the trigger on this, see my attachment for what I'm ordering...

I'm not sure why that site doesn't just list part numbers, but oh well, its where I usually buy my parts from...

Basically in the rear, new mounts, reinforcement plates and 4 gaskets. On the front, new upper plates, mounts and reinforcement plates...

My car is and always has been a southern car, so I don't foresee needing to replace rusty washers and or nuts and bolts. Is there anything I'm missing or that someone would recommend? Are there not gaskets for the mounting points in the front as there are for the rear? (seems odd)

Thanks!

EDIT: Also, the cheapest place I've found the kit from H&R so far is bavarianx.com, $672.04 shipped, any leads on it being cheaper anywhere else?
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You guys may have wanted to consider the ST coilovers made by KW. They were 830 shipped from fcp euro using coupon spring15. I think its only 10% off now though. Still a great deal.

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Ok, I think I'm ready to pull the trigger on this, see my attachment for what I'm ordering...

I'm not sure why that site doesn't just list part numbers, but oh well, its where I usually buy my parts from...

Basically in the rear, new mounts, reinforcement plates and 4 gaskets. On the front, new upper plates, mounts and reinforcement plates...

My car is and always has been a southern car, so I don't foresee needing to replace rusty washers and or nuts and bolts. Is there anything I'm missing or that someone would recommend? Are there not gaskets for the mounting points in the front as there are for the rear? (seems odd)

Thanks!

EDIT: Also, the cheapest place I've found the kit from H&R so far is bavarianx.com, $672.04 shipped, any leads on it being cheaper anywhere else?
I believe you only need 2 gaskets for the rear (just one per side). The front doesnt use gaskets because the mounts just go into the engine compartment and water gets in there anyway. I would recommend machining off the camber alignment pin on the front shock mounts before you install them to gain adjustable front camber.
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Old 04-08-2012, 03:17 PM   #17
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^ thanks buddy! I have 4 rear gaskets in the "cart" because I agreed with the DIY'er in the link posted somewhere in here, just to help protect the paint on both sides (although it is a southern car and rust shouldn't ever be an issue). I was thinking there should be gaskets up front to protect the paint too, I wasn't thinking about them being for water tightness in the rear for the trunk, durh, lol. I'm a bit of a fanatic about my paint, so I was wondering why there were not any up front to protect it, haha...
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EDIT: Also, the cheapest place I've found the kit from H&R so far is bavarianx.com, $672.04 shipped, any leads on it being cheaper anywhere else?
Has anyone done business with this site before? They seem to have a decent reputation on e90post, but I'm just wondering if anything from our native forum has.. They don't seem to have selectable options for the H&R Sport Cup Kit (there are different numbers for convertibles, coupes/sedans with and without ZSP suspension, etc.), but that price is making me want to bite the bullet soon.. Anyone?
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got my H&R sport cup kit from tirerack, that was 4 years ago though..ride, no regrets, i like it
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is anyone on 19's with the cup kit? I'm thinking my rears will rub
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