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Old 04-12-2012, 05:52 AM   #1
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how do you tell the difference between hpf turbo's

i would like to know im judging a show at the end of the month. any help and i would be grateful...
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Old 04-12-2012, 06:54 AM   #2
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You don't need to...... You give them all first place.....lol
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Seriously though look thru the bumper at the drivers fog and you can it has methanol or not, that will let you know it's at least a stage 2.......if it has the oem fuel rail it's a stage 2.75 or under.....other than that you would have to climb under the car and what size snail it has . There are other differences between the kits but those can be an upgrade on stages lower.
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i think a stage 3 or 4 hpf is coming to eurofest

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Seriously though look thru the bumper at the drivers fog and you can it has methanol or not, that will let you know it's at least a stage 2.......if it has the oem fuel rail it's a stage 2.75 or under.....other than that you would have to climb under the car and what size snail it has . There are other differences between the kits but those can be an upgrade on stages lower.
and i know 2 other hpf cars from different car clubs are coming i just want to know the difference from stage 2 to 2.5 and 4... i know the difference on the s/c cars because i have one of those lollllll
but thanks alot now i won't look to stupid to the owners i will at lease know what im looking for and where to look....
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There are certain instances where you will not be able to tell the difference other than to ask the owner..... For example the only difference between a stage 2 and 2.5 is internals
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If they both have HPF Turbo kits on their cars depending on your point structure most would just judge it as having an aftermarket turbo. In shows I think fit and finish would mean more than Stage x vs Stage y. Is the intake manifold color matched? What about other engine bay modifications that complement the motor? Is the engine bay factory floor clean like it should be at a car show? etc..
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If they both have HPF Turbo kits on their cars depending on your point structure most would just judge it as having an aftermarket turbo. In shows I think fit and finish would mean more than Stage x vs Stage y. Is the intake manifold color matched? What about other engine bay modifications that complement the motor? Is the engine bay factory floor clean like it should be at a car show? etc..
point in case why car shows are lame........designated by aftermarket turbo instead of actual performance....some dude with crappy konis could beat someone with 3 way adjustable motons bc he engine bay is slightly dirty
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I dont know if it matters for s show what stage HPF the car is. Like has been said, there are so many other markers to do like aftermaket strut bar, all AN fitting fuel system, color matching under hood compasnents, or polished ones at least.

You can have a little stage one that went to town that will visually blow away a plain Jane Stage 4. ...unless you are awarding points on power made. You need a dyno for that.

Car shows are pretty superficial....goes back to the Koni/dirty Motons thing.

Often a top winning car is never driven, its trailered to every event. Whats the point?
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I dont know if it matters for s show what stage HPF the car is. Like has been said, there are so many other markers to do like aftermaket strut bar, all AN fitting fuel system, color matching under hood compasnents, or polished ones at least.

You can have a little stage one that went to town that will visually blow away a plain Jane Stage 4. ...unless you are awarding points on power made. You need a dyno for that.

Car shows are pretty superficial....goes back to the Koni/dirty Motons thing.

Often a top winning car is never driven, its trailered to every event. Whats the point?
i have one of the top show cars...i usually place and win at car shows....because i have mod's in
exterior
interior
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perf.
engine bay..... ect.
but im one of a kind lollll

and to answer you my other judges told me that the perf. is going by h/p thats why i wanted to know about your turbo's.. i think we are going to have a dyno at the show but don't hold me to it.... im in the area of the show thats my job...i am just trying to bone up on the turbo's.. so i can be fair...
i hear their are going to be a few 997 their also.... but we are expecting around 1,000 cars.. we are going to try to run in like bimmerfest for this year.. the one on the east coast...
i hear their is a guy in the new york area that is geting a stage 4 hpf turbo
with 900+ h/p..... he should be wright up their with h/p i would think...

but thank you all (the hpf cars for giving me your comments)
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here is what i have for perf.

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If they both have HPF Turbo kits on their cars depending on your point structure most would just judge it as having an aftermarket turbo. In shows I think fit and finish would mean more than Stage x vs Stage y. Is the intake manifold color matched? What about other engine bay modifications that complement the motor? Is the engine bay factory floor clean like it should be at a car show? etc..
i have alot of mod's that work together

PERFORMANCE MODIFICATIONS:
• AA W/A Injection Kit For AA S/C
• AA Super Charger With a C 81 Trim Blower
• E46 M-ScinTake-Intake Manifold
• Intake Manifold Is Custumed Painted Carbon Black
• HKS96 96MM HKS Intake Housing Modified For Rotrex
• ATEW-Air Temp Extension Wire
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• 13621725323-Air Temp Sensor Intake Manifold Includes With Wire
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no problem hope it was somewhat helpful. i never was a carshow guy, the one show i did my car lost to a bonestock M3 because you could whiteglove his car without seeing one spec of dirt.
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