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Old 03-08-2009, 05:40 PM   #21
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guys i'm a bit lost.

why does it matter which tranny you have? is it to choose the correct filter/gasket kit or to choose the correct oil for your tranny?

basically, i've bought 8 quartz of redline d4 atf (the leftover to be used in my power steering) but am not 100% sure what tranny i have.

also, where are filter/gasket kits obtainable from?
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Old 03-08-2009, 06:22 PM   #22
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pelican parts for filter kits.................
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Old 03-08-2009, 08:57 PM   #23
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Thanks so much man, so M1 has a new atf formula? hmm, so either Castrol or M1 ATF, which to choose?
I used Mibil1 ATF. Whichever you decide, make sure it indicates on the label that it is LT71141 equivalent. This is the spec for the ZF transmission.
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I used Mibil1 ATF. Whichever you decide, make sure it indicates on the label that it is LT71141 equivalent. This is the spec for the ZF transmission.
yep going with castrol atf
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Old 04-13-2009, 04:22 AM   #25
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guys i'm a bit lost.

why does it matter which tranny you have? is it to choose the correct filter/gasket kit or to choose the correct oil for your tranny?

basically, i've bought 8 quartz of redline d4 atf (the leftover to be used in my power steering) but am not 100% sure what tranny i have.

also, where are filter/gasket kits obtainable from?
^^ bump?

Basically, is Redline D4 good for ZF & GM trannies? Or only one of those? I want to take every precaution necessary before I do the dreaded change and certainly don't want to put the wrong stuff in (that said, i'm still not going to put in OEM atf! $$$)
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Old 05-21-2009, 02:13 PM   #26
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^^ bump?

Basically, is Redline D4 good for ZF & GM trannies? Or only one of those? I want to take every precaution necessary before I do the dreaded change and certainly don't want to put the wrong stuff in (that said, i'm still not going to put in OEM atf! $$$)
I have this same question. I'm not sure what transmission i have and i already bought REdline D4 2quarts of it do i need more this will be this first transmission fluid change at 70.XXXmiles. My questions are:


1. Is it ok to use Redline D4 on my tranny,even though i don't know what tranny i have?
2. Should I change the filter and gaskets or just drain and fill the fluid because it is my first change??
3. Lastly, Who sells the Filter kits besides pelican parts?

Thanks in advance. PLease HELP!
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Old 05-22-2009, 01:49 AM   #27
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Old 05-22-2009, 01:57 AM   #28
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Yes, if you have any doubt at all on your tranny type...have you tried the VIN decode? Go here... http://www.bmw-z1.com/VIN/VINdecode-e.cgi
what type is the one that i have?
mine says A5S 390R
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Old 06-14-2009, 05:16 PM   #29
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I have a Gm A5s390R transmission, sticker on bottom says to use fluid p/n 83220024359 which is etl-8072B. I was about to drain my transmission fluid and replace it with mobil1 atf when I noticed the fluid coming out was a light brown colour, not red like the regular transmission fluid.Has anyone who have changed the fluid on this type of transmission noticed this? My car is a 2005 325i built Oct 2004 with 70,000 mls. Thanks for your reply.
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Old 06-14-2009, 06:45 PM   #30
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If I ever change the fluid in my GM auto tranny (A5S 360R) I'm going to use Dexron VI. That's what GM fills them with and recommends for all previous GM transmissions.

The GM transmissions used in BMW's are also widely used in GM vehicles such as the Cadillac CTS etc.

If I had a ZF transmission I'd go with ZF's recommendation for fluid.

If I was going to put a Redline fluid in, (and I wouldn't), I'd pick the D6, not the D4. D6 is essentially a Dexron VI fluid.


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Old 06-14-2009, 07:05 PM   #31
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i only use redline D4 ATF fluid for the past 3 drains over 150k miles...worked great
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Old 06-14-2009, 07:06 PM   #32
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d6 is overkill by the way...but it cant hurt either
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I would use exactly the fluid specified. Each fluid has a different friction component which is designed for the tranny in question.
"Better" fluid is not better for the tranny. I would not risk it.
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I have the green tag on my tranny...looking at the pics...the fluid pans are obviously different. Couldn't I identify my tranny type by the type of pan used?
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I have a Gm A5s390R transmission, sticker on bottom says to use fluid p/n 83220024359 which is etl-8072B. I was about to drain my transmission fluid and replace it with mobil1 atf when I noticed the fluid coming out was a light brown colour, not red like the regular transmission fluid.Has anyone who have changed the fluid on this type of transmission noticed this? My car is a 2005 325i built Oct 2004 with 70,000 mls. Thanks for your reply.
That new red ATF turns brown over time. Light brown is not too bad, dark brown would be much worse. But, just to be clear, I am not saying you have the right ATF. I am not touching that debate. I would go with the BMW factory ATF, and leave it at that. But, as you can see, there is a LOT of debate about what other brands to use.
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In most of my research on this I found that 325's use the GM tranny and the 330's use the ZF. The fluids are totally different. Since you'll only be able to drain about 4 liters of fluid out, what you add MUST be compatible with the other 8 or so liters trapped in the torque converter. The ZF uses the Esso fluid which is identical to Pentosin ATF1 which I bought at Napa (they ordered it) for $16 a liter. I bought 8 so I could do it twice. The first time I dropped the pan (at 86,000 miles) and the magnets (those depressions you see in the pan bottom) were covered with debris and the fluid was a muddy brown. I cleaned it up, changed the filter and refilled it. I need to do it again now at 91,000 miles but I'll just drain and refill. The car must be level when you refill to keep the correct level. Too little fluid is bad but too much fluid is bad also. Too much fluid causes the gears, etc. to "paddle" in the oil causing foaming. Just my $.02. By the way, the Torx head pan bolt heads are easily damaged. Use a good (new) bit and be ready to change out any damaged bolts.
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That new red ATF turns brown over time. Light brown is not too bad, dark brown would be much worse. But, just to be clear, I am not saying you have the right ATF. I am not touching that debate. I would go with the BMW factory ATF, and leave it at that. But, as you can see, there is a LOT of debate about what other brands to use.
the factory fill was brown not red.
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RE my previous post...loking for an answer...

Am I correct in saying you can identify the type of transmission by the type of pan on the tranny??? Or would this b`e an incorrect assumption?
The pictures clearly show two different pans.
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RE my previous post...loking for an answer...

Am I correct in saying you can identify the type of transmission by the type of pan on the tranny??? Or would this b`e an incorrect assumption?
The pictures clearly show two different pans.
yes, GM pan is smooth and has 21 bolts.
ZF is different.
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