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Old 04-29-2012, 11:04 PM   #21
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Skill of the driver makes a huge difference, think any one of us can do better than the stig in a Prius?
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Old 04-29-2012, 11:13 PM   #22
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I felt like there was a loss of connection between the driver and car when I switched from the OP video to the silver e90 vid.
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Old 04-30-2012, 12:25 AM   #23
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Skill of the driver makes a huge difference, think any one of us can do better than the stig in a Prius?
I'll see your stig in a Prius and raise you an Andretti on a Segway.
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Old 04-30-2012, 01:01 AM   #24
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:20 AM   #25
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To be honest when I retire mine it will be for an E46M or E92M, E90's never did it for me.

But they are a blast to drive. And that ZHP sounds stock, they have a great tone.
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Old 04-30-2012, 03:40 PM   #26
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Driver makes a huge difference. At Putnam Park three weeks ago, I passed a Ferrari 458 twice with my Lemons '92 Sentra SE-R.

It's all about skill, and how willing you are to take your expensive ass car to the limits. I get to drive expensive cars all the time that don't belong to me, and I never come close to a point of risking losing control since I can't afford to cut a check for the damage afterward.
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Old 04-30-2012, 03:45 PM   #27
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I have a ZHP & would love to wave the flag but these guys looked to be tooling around the track & having fun. My guess is they're driving at maybe 80%. It looked like the guy in the E90 even waved the ZHP by. But I do second everyone else in saying its all driver. I've beat a local E60 M5 twice in a drag race with my ZHP. He clearly has his head in his ass.
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Old 04-30-2012, 03:52 PM   #28
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I have a ZHP & would love to wave the flag but these guys looked to be tooling around the track & having fun. My guess is they're driving at maybe 80%. It looked like the guy in the E90 even waved the ZHP by. But I do second everyone else in saying its all driver. I've beat a local E60 M5 twice in a drag race with my ZHP. He clearly has his head in his ass.
Im going to have to call bs. An e60 m5 would walk a zhp while not in ///M mode and shifting at 3500 rpms at 60% throttle.
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Old 04-30-2012, 04:00 PM   #29
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The elevational changes on that track look like a blast
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He had a manual, no SMG. First time he missed a shift. Maybe went 1st to 4th? Second time I heard him losing traction & pegging the rev limiter. He may have way more power than me but he couldn't put it all to the ground.
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:40 AM   #31
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Im going to have to call bs. An e60 m5 would walk a zhp while not in ///M mode and shifting at 3500 rpms at 60% throttle.
You don't even know how the e60 driver handled his car or how the ZHP'er did either, bs is on you
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Old 05-03-2012, 11:03 AM   #32
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No offense man, but this is all driver skill or sandbagging on the E9X M3's part. I did DE's in my old 325i and could keep up with Porsche GT2's, which makes about as much sense as this video.

Not trying to be a dick, just truthful. Nice driving and keep it up. It's a great feeling passing someone who spent a lot of money on their car(s)
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This was posted on M3post. That 330 has extensive suspension and brake mods...and the driver is apparently very good.

On any long straight, a stock M3 will pull easily on a ZHP. Not just because of the power but the E9X M3 has shorter gearing in 6MT form or it will shift super fast if its a DCT. Hell, I have a supercharged 330 and I can stay with a 6MT E9X M3 on a straight, a DCT will slowly walk away everytime I shift. DCT makes a HUGE difference.

While the E46 is lighter make no mistake, the E9X platform is superior to the E46 in every performance measure. I know because I have both.
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Old 05-19-2012, 02:44 PM   #35
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This was posted on M3post. That 330 has extensive suspension and brake mods...and the driver is apparently very good.

On any long straight, a stock M3 will pull easily on a ZHP. Not just because of the power but the E9X M3 has shorter gearing in 6MT form or it will shift super fast if its a DCT. Hell, I have a supercharged 330 and I can stay with a 6MT E9X M3 on a straight, a DCT will slowly walk away everytime I shift. DCT makes a HUGE difference.

While the E46 is lighter make no mistake, the E9X platform is superior to the E46 in every performance measure. I know because I have both.
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And just to be clear, the E90 driver was not pushing the limit at all, not even close.
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Old 05-25-2012, 06:18 PM   #36
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Here is a list of my mods for anyone that is still tuned in: http://goo.gl/sczxw

Thanks for all the compliments

FWIW, we were all running NT-01 tires in the vid and all of the cars (E90s included) had coilovers (ground control on the E90s and AST on mine). My ZHP by comparison to the E9Xs is way more modified in the suspension arena though (link above). The reason my ZHP doesn't sound stock is because of my intake and headers.

Passing faster cars is all about braking . Watch how I wait as late as possible in every turn to brake and then come as smoothly and late off the brakes as possible (often still braking at turn-in). A Porsche GT2 doesn't decelerate much faster than a ZHP but it can definitely accelerate faster; understanding this is the key to good lap times in a slow car. For anybody who thinks this has everything to do with the mods, I am running stock brakes with Performance Friction 01 pads. Most of the mods on my car are more about durability than outright speed. (this video is from 2-years ago and a few of the mods in my list weren't on the car back then)

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Old 05-25-2012, 07:13 PM   #37
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Old 05-25-2012, 10:06 PM   #38
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Video is obviously fake.

The A-Pillar covering isn't rippled and coming off.
I replaced my A-pillars when I bought the car
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Old 05-26-2012, 01:39 AM   #39
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:27 AM   #40
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anything can happen at the track. i have vids/pix passing cars ranging from e92 m3 to 458 italia's... usually the more expensive the car, the worse the driver, ha.
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