My TT Stage 2 Build (Step 1) Pics

Originally Posted by PRDesignsTony

yea i agree the dual mass flywheel will be quieter and better for a stock car. But considering his car is fully built with a stage 2 turbo kit, its kinda a race car lol. I dont remember how much the dual mass flywheel weighs, i think around 28-30lbs. The f1 racing one is 15lbs, and you can buy other flywheels that are like 8 lbs, but those are pretty expensive.

This is just me, but the only flywheels I would put on my car would have an SFI 1.1 certification.

I read somewhere its better for the harmonics as well as the turbo spool up to keep the dual mass.

I've put nearly 6K miles on my F1 Racing STG2 kit. Apart from the chatter at idle, I love it. It grabs so nicely and feels almost stock except when depressing the pedal for more than 30s, lol.

Originally Posted by zx5rider

I read somewhere its better for the harmonics as well as the turbo spool up to keep the dual mass.

When you balance a crank you balance it with the flywheel and HD installed , so on a high revving engine (ours isnt one) then it would make a difference.

ahh I see. Well for now I'm gonna just stick with the clutch only I need it bad.

Some g35 stockish just killed me he kept bouncing around me so I said F*&k it and sure enough as soon as I start to pull away it lets go. but then a cop came outta the woods and got him haha.

Originally Posted by PEI330Ci

This is just me, but the only flywheels I would put on my car would have an SFI 1.1 certification.

Well see its all about the monies man, I'd love me a bada55 flywheel and clutch to but its just to dang expensive. F1 Racing offers a great clutch and flywheel thats perfect for the price.

I can get a M3 pressure plate for free. Do you think that will hold over for a little bit?

Originally Posted by zx5rider

Love the roof rack....I might get one for my 330i.


And for the work involved...are you sure you wouldn't rather wait for the new clutch?

Agreed ^^^^ For the amount of work involved I would just get a new clutch. Remember you gotta pull the tranny out. Not exactly an hour job. If your low on cash, just get an F1 stage 3 clutch, it comes with a 15lb lightweight flywheel. You can order either from their website or you can get them on ebay for around $550. You get a nice 6-puck design plus a lightweight flywheel for under a grand. Just save yourself the trouble and work and just do it right the first time.

If I had a manual transmission in the 330i, I'd go with an FX-850. I realize this is a bit outside of the program....but I just thought I'd mention it.

I've done it some many times its cake.....but I haven't changed it with the turbo yet.

Here's the clutch setup I use on my Stage2 turbo'd 330.......it's held up just fine thus far after MANY WOT throttle runs (no slipping whatsoever):

- stock E46 M3 pressure plate
- ClutchNet Stage2 (yellow) Kevlar solid hub disc
- stock 330 dual mass flywheel
- stock 330 throwout bearing

Has anybody every used the M5 clutch and LW flywheel combo from UUC for a turbo 330?

Originally Posted by NickG

Here's the clutch setup I use on my Stage2 turbo'd 330.......it's held up just fine thus far after MANY WOT throttle runs (no slipping whatsoever):

- stock E46 M3 pressure plate
- ClutchNet Stage2 (yellow) Kevlar solid hub disc
- stock 330 dual mass flywheel
- stock 330 throwout bearing

but im sure it would run even better with a nice aftermarket flywheel

Originally Posted by PRDesignsTony

but im sure it would run even better with a nice aftermarket flywheel

No, it wouldn't. It would chatter at idle, the idle would dip upon re-entry into idle mode, and if using an aluminum flywheel with steel friction surface, I'm betting the clutch life would be much reduced.

Originally Posted by NickG

Here's the clutch setup I use on my Stage2 turbo'd 330.......it's held up just fine thus far after MANY WOT throttle runs (no slipping whatsoever):

- stock E46 M3 pressure plate
- ClutchNet Stage2 (yellow) Kevlar solid hub disc
- stock 330 dual mass flywheel
- stock 330 throwout bearing

this?

http://clutchnet.com/clutches?page=s...tegory_id=8469

Originally Posted by NickG

No, it wouldn't. It would chatter at idle, the idle would dip upon re-entry into idle mode, and if using an aluminum flywheel with steel friction surface, I'm betting the clutch life would be much reduced.

Their is plenty of people with fully built cars that have no problems whats so ever as you are describing. Not saying that problem does not exist cause it does but a lot of people dont have that according to what i've heard from actual owners of good clutch kits and aftermarket flywheels.

Originally Posted by PRDesignsTony

Their is plenty of people with fully built cars that have no problems whats so ever as you are describing. Not saying that problem does not exist cause it does but a lot of people dont have that according to what i've heard from actual owners of good clutch kits and aftermarket flywheels.

How many of those people own a turbo kit on their E46 non-M?

Nick is giving advice on hardware for a vehicle that has his turbo kit installed. Changing the flywheel inertia has an effect on the idle control strategy....that's the one that I think most people would be the most sensitive about.

The DME does have some adaptation, but it cant compensate for a 50% reduction in inertia with only a 17% compensation limit. (Just an example)

Originally Posted by sedanpowersc

Has anybody every used the M5 clutch and LW flywheel combo from UUC for a turbo 330?

This one? 5 speed http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E46-330...tch/ES1897105/

6 speed. I'm not sure if this comes with everything the 5 speed version does. http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E46-330...tch/ES2523946/