COBYATCH: Black Sedan Build Thread

Originally Posted by djnekkon

Great job on the mods...

Thanks! Hopefully the Style 5s go on soon. After rolling the fenders and buying tires.

Originally Posted by -Jay-

i like the tails. did you do them yourself? what'd you use?

Thanks! I used 3 coats of Testors candy red and then 4 coats of clear. Thinking of redoing them with vinyl since they look kinda ghetto when the brakes/signals come on. Or I could upgrade to LED tails.

Originally Posted by COBYATCH

Installed my D2 coilovers Tuesday, and they're finally starting to settle. Running 20mm spacers in the rear, 15mm in the front. I need to raise the rear since they constantly rub when I drive, not just when I hit bumps LOL. I suck at taking pics ahha but here's a decent pic.

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Should sell the spacers to me Looks great! You're running a staggered setup?

Originally Posted by COBYATCH

Thanks! I used 3 coats of Testors candy red and then 4 coats of clear. Thinking of redoing them with vinyl since they look kinda ghetto when the brakes/signals come on. Or I could upgrade to LED tails.

Did you consider RCRs? They look sharp on darker colored cars.

Originally Posted by briangl92

Should sell the spacers to me Looks great! You're running a staggered setup?

Did you consider RCRs? They look sharp on darker colored cars.

Thanks! Nope they're a square setup (18x8 et47), unless adding spacers make them staggered, I'm not really sure lmao.

I don't really like the look of RCR compared to red/clear or all red. Something about them doesn't make them look as aggressive ahha.

Why did you add spacers? For looks, or were the wheels too close to the new coilovers?

Originally Posted by ac_2007

Why did you add spacers? For looks, or were the wheels too close to the new coilovers?

Just for looks. I wasn't expected the springs to settle enough for them to start rubbing constantly. The fenders were rolled when I bought the car but the previous owner didn't remove the rubber behind the fender so there's not enough space in the rear. I'm just gonna take them off until I get the fenders rolled properly.

Hmm. Yeah you wouldn't rub at all without those spacers.

They presently put you at ET32 front, ET27 rear. My guess is you're only rubbing in the back?

Yeah just the rear. I'm using 225/45/18 tires as well so they have no stretch and are pretty beefy ahha.

Ah, so they're a bit taller as well.

My rims are 18x8 ET35, tires 225/40/18 and the clearance between wheel and rear fender is very tight. Admittedly, the wheels are a bit tucked though.
Thankfully, no rubbing with 3 people in the back and full trunk!

Originally Posted by COBYATCH

Thanks! Nope they're a square setup (18x8 et47), unless adding spacers make them staggered, I'm not really sure lmao.

I don't really like the look of RCR compared to red/clear or all red. Something about them doesn't make them look as aggressive ahha.

Square or staggered refers to wheel/tire width. Doesn't have to do with offset

Originally Posted by COBYATCH

Yeah just the rear. I'm using 225/45/18 tires as well so they have no stretch and are pretty beefy ahha.

Wrong tire size. You shouldn't be running that high of a sidewall. You're throwing off your speedometer and putting a little bit more wear on the drivetrain by essentially gearing up the car. It's not massively wrong, I have 17" wheels and run 225/45 tires. You should be more like 40 depending on your tire width, so like I said its not huge. That'd contribute to the rubbing though. And it also raises your ride height by a few millimeters.

Any updates on this?

Probably going to get my fenders cut today if SonicMS has any spots open.

Also reconsidering the Style 5s. They're too small for me to get up my driveway lol. I can barely get up with the m3 wheels now without scraping.
Any suggestions for 18/19 inch wheels? I wanna run something crazy ahha.
Alphards are growing on me. Will adapters work on these or will I need to redrill?

Originally Posted by COBYATCH

Probably going to get my fenders cut today if SonicMS has any spots open.

Also reconsidering the Style 5s. They're too small for me to get up my driveway lol. I can barely get up with the m3 wheels now without scraping.
Any suggestions for 18/19 inch wheels? I wanna run something crazy ahha.
Alphards are growing on me. Will adapters work on these or will I need to redrill?

You'll get tired of 19s. You'll drive down the Alameda once and regret it. In my opinion I'd stick with 18s. They'll look bigger with the correct tire size anyway.

What do you mean "too small?" By rule of thumb your overall diameter should remain the same. If your rim size increases, your sidewall height decreases. But overall diameter should stay the same.

Increasing diameter has a lot of negative effects. Decreased braking performance, slower acceleration, decreased fuel economy, and so on. Just my opinion, to each their own You could try running a staggered 18" M3 setup

Originally Posted by briangl92

What do you mean "too small?" By rule of thumb your overall diameter should remain the same. If your rim size increases, your sidewall height decreases. But overall diameter should stay the same.

The Style 5s I have are 17", and I wanted to stretch them with 205/40. In the end they're gonna be smaller than what I have now.



That's why I'm considering selling them and just getting another 18" wheel.

Originally Posted by COBYATCH

The Style 5s I have are 17", and I wanted to stretch them with 205/40. In the end they're gonna be smaller than what I have now.



That's why I'm considering selling them and just getting another 18" wheel.

That's because you're miscalculating your sidewall height. You need more sidewall if you have a smaller rim. You adjust the sidewall height to keep overall diameter the same. Hope this helps.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=46

Sidewall Aspect Ratio

Typically following the three digits identifying the tire's Section Width in millimeters is a two-digit number that identifies the tire's profile or aspect ratio.

P225/50R16 91S

The 50 indicates that this tire size's sidewall height (from rim to tread) is 50% of its section width. The measurement is the tire's section height, and also referred to as the tire's series, profile or aspect ratio. The higher the number, the taller the sidewall; the lower the number, the lower the sidewall. We know that this tire size's section width is 225mm and that its section height is 50% of 225mm. By converting the 225mm to inches (225 / 25.4 = 8.86") and multiplying it by 50% (.50) we confirm that this tire size results in a tire section height of 4.43". If this tire were a P225/70R16 size, our calculation would confirm that the size would result in a section height of 6.20", approximately a 1.8-inch taller sidewall.

You need a 205/50 17. Overall diameter (from contact patch to top of tire) should be as close to 25" as possible.

I didn't want to go 205/50 because it'll make the wheel look small, but if I go 205/40 I don't like how it doesn't fill the fender unless you slam the car. I was thinking 205/45 if I decide to keep the wheels.

Got my fenders cut at Sonic Motorsport earlier today. They did a great job! No more rubbing Definitely recommend them if anyone is looking to get their fenders trimmed.


Also put the Style 5s up for sale . Looking for some ACS Type 2s right now. That might change though if you guys have suggestions haha.
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=926858 <--- FS Thread

Some decent pictures ahha.

Thought about 20's?