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Old 07-01-2012, 11:33 PM   #41
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Nice looking car. What lights do you have on the rear. I've got the silver grey metallic with the factory M-Tech II on it and I'm trying to decide on lighting.
I wish I could say that was my car. It belongs to SNA777.

Anyway, from what I gather he has OEM RCR tail lights, clear side and corner markers. Really looks good with the silver-grey I think.

I also have RCR tail lights, clear side and corner indicators as well, and I too have silver-grey metallic paint. I think it's a great combination, but amber also looks good on A08:



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^ but amber on the front and clear in the back doesn't look right to me... All amber (except maybe the side markers) all clear, or all smoked. Maybe thats whats with the OP's opinion, maybe the backs are R/C/R or R/A/R and it looks funny to him...

I plan to swap them all clear for smoke on my car, and change them all to LED. Probably soon...
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^ but amber on the front and clear in the back doesn't look right to me... All amber (except maybe the side markers) all clear, or all smoked. Maybe thats whats with the OP's opinion, maybe the backs are R/C/R or R/A/R and it looks funny to him...

I plan to swap them all clear for smoke on my car, and change them all to LED. Probably soon...
agreed. all should match.

amber here, smoked there, clear over there....looks goofy
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^ but amber on the front and clear in the back doesn't look right to me... All amber (except maybe the side markers) all clear, or all smoked. Maybe thats whats with the OP's opinion, maybe the backs are R/C/R or R/A/R and it looks funny to him...

I plan to swap them all clear for smoke on my car, and change them all to LED. Probably soon...
I've got these listed in the classifieds section if you want smoked. Great prices on BRAND NEW items. Never drove my car with these on it. I took them off. I like amber.
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^ but amber on the front and clear in the back doesn't look right to me... All amber (except maybe the side markers) all clear, or all smoked. Maybe thats whats with the OP's opinion, maybe the backs are R/C/R or R/A/R and it looks funny to him...

I plan to swap them all clear for smoke on my car, and change them all to LED. Probably soon...
Two different cars. Also, that photo of the rear of mine with the snow on the ground was when I had RCR tails and ambers everywhere else. I was stilling waiting on the rest of the lenses to arrive. For the most part I agree, I think the car should have a uniform theme.

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I have lightly smoked front corners, OEM clear side markers, and aftermarket clear LED turn signals.. I like the combo (reference sig)
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lol i know what they are....i was just noting what i prefer.

and honestly money saver paint amber bulbs partly silver. same effect and much cheaper
Not really. Painting a bulb (even a really light coat) will reduce the light output. Not something I find acceptable for what's supposed to be a warning mechanism to other drivers.

The coating on the silvervision itself is somewhat reactive to light (or something - you'd see what I mean if you actually look at the bulbs while they're lighting up), so they're actually slightly brighter (very slightly, mind you) than the standard amber bulbs. Also unlike other stealth bulbs, they light up a proper amber color. Not the darker orange you get out of generic chrome bulbs.

I've tried every possible type of stealth bulb. These are the only ones I'm satisfied with. Since turn signal bulbs rarely go bad, I don't mind spending $20 on a pair.

The point is, those are the only stealth bulbs that you can buy where you sacrifice nothing. Except money I guess
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Not really. Painting a bulb (even a really light coat) will reduce the light output. Not something I find acceptable for what's supposed to be a warning mechanism to other drivers.

The coating on the silvervision itself is somewhat reactive to light (or something - you'd see what I mean if you actually look at the bulbs while they're lighting up), so they're actually slightly brighter (very slightly, mind you) than the standard amber bulbs. Also unlike other stealth bulbs, they light up a proper amber color. Not the darker orange you get out of generic chrome bulbs.

I've tried every possible type of stealth bulb. These are the only ones I'm satisfied with. Since turn signal bulbs rarely go bad, I don't mind spending $20 on a pair.

The point is, those are the only stealth bulbs that you can buy where you sacrifice nothing. Except money I guess
I have heard and seen on realOEM that BMW makes a kit of chrome bulbs that illuminate amber. Have you tried these?
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I have heard and seen on realOEM that BMW makes a kit of chrome bulbs that illuminate amber. Have you tried these?
I didn't actually buy them, but I looked at one of the bulbs at a dealer. They're rebranded Philips Silvervision bulbs (They actually have Philips PY21W SV stamped on the base iirc). VW sells them for a little less ($10/bulb from some online VW dealers, or about $16/bulb locally). Or you can find them on Amazon/Motivemods in Philips retail boxes for about $25 shipped or so (they have to be imported from the UK since for some reason they're not sold retail in the US)

The BMW kit does include the little sidemarker bulbs, but those are kinda crappy. They're basically regular bulbs with a thick coat of paint on the edge. You're better off getting the generics for those (or I find that the sidemarkers are so frosted that the yellow doesn't really show threw anyway)

I should note that in extremely bright sun at the right angle, you can sort of see some yellow peak through, but 99% of the time the corners look perfectly silver. I'm not willing to sacrifice what seems like 50% of the light to make it look silver that 1% of the time
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I have smoked corners, and the ones pictured in the original post are much darker.

Clears for the facelift look much better (didn't read 3 pages to see if you already chose this route)
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Not really. Painting a bulb (even a really light coat) will reduce the light output. Not something I find acceptable for what's supposed to be a warning mechanism to other drivers.

The coating on the silvervision itself is somewhat reactive to light (or something - you'd see what I mean if you actually look at the bulbs while they're lighting up), so they're actually slightly brighter (very slightly, mind you) than the standard amber bulbs. Also unlike other stealth bulbs, they light up a proper amber color. Not the darker orange you get out of generic chrome bulbs.

I've tried every possible type of stealth bulb. These are the only ones I'm satisfied with. Since turn signal bulbs rarely go bad, I don't mind spending $20 on a pair.

The point is, those are the only stealth bulbs that you can buy where you sacrifice nothing. Except money I guess
so you went from saying not really, to then listing a sacrifice and noting you never even bought the lights you suggested? lol

the light output doesn't diminish enough where the light is useless for its intended purpose.

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so you went from saying not really, to then listing a sacrifice and noting you never even bought the lights you suggested? lol

the light output doesn't diminish enough where the light is useless for its intended purpose.

to each their own.
I said I didn't buy the BMW branded ones - I'm running a set that came in Philips boxes. I didn't buy the BMW ones because I saw right there that they were rebranded Philips bulbs and I thought I'd save myself some money. They're the same damn bulbs.

And like I said, I've tried every type of stealth bulb, including a light coat of silver paint. Everything but the silvervisioins were useless on a bright day. I'm not going to take the chance that someone won't see my signals to save $10-20.

And what sacrifice are you referring to? The fact that you can see a lilttle bit of yellow in extremely bright light at the right angle? Well that's true of generic and DIY stealth bulbs too, so it's not really a sacrifice.
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I love my 100% stock run-of-the-mill amber bulbs. No need to spice or teen things up with coatings and paintings, etc. That $15 is better spent on a new air filter. I agree that indicators should not be painted over. All lenses should be free of any additional coatings and/or paintings (unless clear or what not)
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I love my 100% stock run-of-the-mill amber bulbs. No need to spice or teen things up with coatings and paintings, etc. That $15 is better spent on a new air filter. I agree that indicators should not be painted over. All lenses should be free of any additional coatings and/or paintings (unless clear or what not)
Idk man, I'm not a fan of the egg-yolk look. A set of Osram/Sylvania amber bulbs costs about $10 from autozone/pepboys/advanced. So for if I could have my car look how I want it for $15 extra without sacrificing any light output (in fact, they look brighter to my eyes... I'll see if I could confirm that), then that's well worth it to me.

Btw these bulbs come stock on the E83 X3
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Idk man, I'm not a fan of the egg-yolk look. A set of Osram/Sylvania amber bulbs costs about $10 from autozone/pepboys/advanced. So for $15 if I could have my car look how I want it without sacrificing any light output (in fact, they look brighter to my eyes... I'll see if I could confirm that), then that's well worth it to me.
I love the OE-styled look of having amber indicators. Too much clear in the front looks bad IMO. Looks like one is trying too hard to be Euro. It's like when you see those cars where the body shop resprayed the entire front end in white... grills.. everything. all one color. It kinda sorta looks like my car has ambers. ..



Or here with the ugly black grills and AEs I used to have =/

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I love the OE-styled look of having amber indicators. Too much clear in the front looks bad IMO. Looks like one is trying too hard to be Euro. It's like when you see those cars where the body shop resprayed the entire front end in white... grills.. everything. all one color. It kinda sorta looks like my car has ambers. ..



Or here with the ugly black grills and AEs I used to have =/

My car's black/blue. I like the monochromatic look. And coupe corners with amber bulbs seriously look like sunny side up eggs.
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Yeah the coupes have huge corners. I'm sure the whole lamp doesn't look uniform since its so big.
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Yeah the coupes have huge corners. I'm sure the whole lamp doesn't look uniform since its so big.
Yeah, the issue is two fold. The coupe corners are larger, and they're also frosted. Since te sedans just have clear plastic and a reflective surface inside, they tend to look uniform.

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Yes I agree. Was gonna bring up the frosted part. Just scatters everything awkwardly if theres amber in there. Like an oil painting or something
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