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Old 07-22-2012, 02:35 PM   #41
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We need a tire that can still handle corners. R888 have better handling ?
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Old 07-22-2012, 03:01 PM   #42
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If no money no object I'd stock up on R888. The only time MT's felt bad to me is when they were almost worn then they got a little scary 100+ mph but still perfect for normal street driving.
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Old 07-22-2012, 03:11 PM   #43
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We need a tire that can still handle corners. R888 have better handling ?
If money was no problem, the best overall tire would be Toyo R888. Its good on the track and street.

The best bang for your buck would be the NT05s. If you watch CW's video, it looked like it was gripping fairly well and on straight stretches he was able to pull with minimal spinning.

I wish NT05 came in 255/35/18. Would running a 245/40/18 tire and 285/35/18 staggered be too much difference from the front and back?
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Old 07-22-2012, 03:28 PM   #44
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If money was no problem, the best overall tire would be Toyo R888. Its good on the track and street.

The best bang for your buck would be the NT05s. If you watch CW's video, it looked like it was gripping fairly well and on straight stretches he was able to pull with minimal spinning.

I wish NT05 came in 255/35/18. Would running a 245/40/18 tire and 285/35/18 staggered be too much difference from the front and back?
U tried the r888?
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Old 07-22-2012, 03:43 PM   #45
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Here are my favorite ( and current) tire setups:

Street tires: Yokohama Advan AD08, 235/35-19 and 295/30-19
These are amazing tires, I like them better than the nt05 as they have a better contact patch. I dd my car in seattle and these do great in the rain. I hook most of second and all of third. I would suggest these to everyone.

Other setup: The popular 305/35-18 MT et streets. Straight line traction is amazing but less than ideal in the rain and in the corners they suck.

Im stage 2.5 and beat the piss out of my car. Just for frame of reference I've driven plenty of cars on NT05's, Falken 615k's, and hankook rs3's and the yokohama's are our new shop favorite.


ninja edit: I would run the r888's but they wear out too fast for me.
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Old 07-22-2012, 04:13 PM   #46
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U tried the r888?
I've driven my friends car who has the R888 and performed well on the street and on autocross. Although, I cannot compare to the other tires as I have not tried them so my opinions don't really count.

^Andy, how are the advan's life span? Compared to the NT05? What made your shop choose the advan's over the others?
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Old 07-22-2012, 04:24 PM   #47
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I've driven my friends car who has the R888 and performed well on the street and on autocross. Although, I cannot compare to the other tires as I have not tried them so my opinions don't really count.

^Andy, how are the advan's life span? Compared to the NT05? What made your shop choose the advan's over the others?
No idea on the life span yet as i've only had them on for a month. All of our Formula D cars run the falken 615k's but they dont make those in 19's thats why I tried the Advans.
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Old 07-22-2012, 05:31 PM   #48
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Advans...may have to play with some new rubber I was looking at these alast year...wonder if they have a 255 for the front

Edit: Size's are there...Price: GTFO
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Old 07-22-2012, 05:37 PM   #49
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Advans...may have to play with some new rubber I was looking at these alast year...wonder if they have a 255 for the front

Edit: Size's are there...Price: GTFO
LOL yeah they arnt cheap but the good stuff never is.

Also keep in mind the Advan's run way wide, my 295's fit like 305's
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Old 07-22-2012, 05:40 PM   #50
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LOL yeah they arnt cheap but the good stuff never is.

Also keep in mind the Advan's run way wide, my 295's fit like 305's
Good to know...I'm all about paying for an extra 100% of performance for 100% more price...but when you pay 100% more price for only an extra 5% more performance (as an example)...it's not as nice to chew on.
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Old 07-22-2012, 05:44 PM   #51
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Good to know...I'm all about paying for an extra 100% of performance for 100% more price...but when you pay 100% more price for only an extra 5% more performance (as an example)...it's not as nice to chew on.
Holy #$%& I just looked at the retail for the Advans they REALLY arnt cheap....

The nittos are a great tire, for $252 for the rears that great bang for the buck. I've just never liked how the two big rain grooves waist so much contact patch.
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Old 07-22-2012, 05:52 PM   #52
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I don't know how you run 235 front 295 rear. When I ran 245 front 285 rear my car felt like absolute crap handling wise. I can't imagine 235/295. The closer to square the better the better that's why my favorite is 275/35/18 square setup followed by my 255/35/19 & 275/35/19 setup. I might even try a 265 19" front tire next since my 255's aren't even close to rubbing
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Old 07-22-2012, 06:13 PM   #53
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I don't know how you run 235 front 295 rear. When I ran 245 front 285 rear my car felt like absolute crap handling wise. I can't imagine 235/295. The closer to square the better the better that's why my favorite is 275/35/18 square setup followed by my 255/35/19 & 275/35/19 setup. I might even try a 265 19" front tire next since my 255's aren't even close to rubbing
oops typo, I run a 245 front on my 19's. And a 255 front with my et streets.

The car feels fine on my 19's but yes the next set of wheels I buy will probably be a square setup
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Old 07-22-2012, 06:14 PM   #54
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I don't know how you run 235 front 295 rear. When I ran 245 front 285 rear my car felt like absolute crap handling wise. I can't imagine 235/295. The closer to square the better the better that's why my favorite is 275/35/18 square setup followed by my 255/35/19 & 275/35/19 setup. I might even try a 265 19" front tire next since my 255's aren't even close to rubbing
How are your tires not making contact with the apron on the inside of the front fenders w/275-35-18?
What spring rate on fronts?
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Old 07-22-2012, 06:25 PM   #55
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How are your tires not making contact with the apron on the inside of the front fenders w/275-35-18?
What spring rate on fronts?
No idea it just doesnt. Tck cool overs 550lb front springs I think, 275/35/18 r889 tires, ssr comp h 9.5" wheels, -1 - -1.5 camber
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Old 07-22-2012, 06:27 PM   #56
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I don't know how you run 235 front 295 rear. When I ran 245 front 285 rear my car felt like absolute crap handling wise. I can't imagine 235/295. The closer to square the better the better that's why my favorite is 275/35/18 square setup followed by my 255/35/19 & 275/35/19 setup. I might even try a 265 19" front tire next since my 255's aren't even close to rubbing
Good to know that 245/285 handles like crap. NT05 don't come in 255/35/18. I will have to run 2 different sets front and back.

Btw, what are the widths of your wheels? I assume at least 10".
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Old 07-22-2012, 06:47 PM   #57
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Mine handles nicely with my 245 fronts...but I've never compared to square so mabe I'm missing out
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Old 07-22-2012, 06:51 PM   #58
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Good to know that 245/285 handles like crap. NT05 don't come in 255/35/18. I will have to run 2 different sets front and back.

Btw, what are the widths of your wheels? I assume at least 10".
Whats keeping you from running 265's in front? That is the width you want.
Remember...closest to square.

Runnning a reall LARGE stagger is dangerous. think about it. You have this HUGE rear contact patch (possibly a much stickier compound that your fronts) pushing your front end around an aggressive corner attempt. I say "attempt" because you will likely have your front tires plowed right off the road! Not really, but it can be pretty scary when your fronts plow/skid for several feet instead of turn!
It can be even more dramatic in extreme cases:wet surfaces/broken, uneven pavement. etc.

I dont know why more guys dont run a nice 265/35x18 on a 9.5 inch wheel. they fit just great. the diameter is good to match at 25.3 inches.They really dont tramline either like a much wider front might do for you.

Tramlining is something to be concerned about and to help minimize.
read this excellent practical article on managing tramlining by Tirerack.com

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=47

SMG cars! Use this tire calculator to determine the DIAMETER of your desired tires so you can make sure that you are as CLOSE as possible to matching the fronts diameter to your rears diameter. There is a point where your SMG transmission will not operate properly if the diameter front to rear is to much of a difference. More than an inch? Maybe. Not sure. They need to be pretty close...within .75 inches I saw somewhere.

The owners manual TELLS you to RESET your SMG everytime you:
1) Change your tire/wheel size
2) After fixing a flat tire. The SMG brain is all discombobulated by the much lower diameter of the flat or near flat tire.

Quote from BMW owner's Manual:
After changing tires or wheels, the slip detection of the Sequential Manual Transmission must become familiar with the changed state.
Reinitialize the system for this purpose:
1. Move the selector lever into the idling
position N on a straight stretch of road at a
speed between 20mph/30km/h and
90mph/150km/h.
2. Pull both shift paddles for approx. 2 sec-
onds.

SMG owners. do the above ANY time you want to...especially if the SMG seems to be acting up. The reset fixes a myriad of woes.
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Bdave how many years has it been since you've driven your car just wondering.
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Good to know that 245/285 handles like crap. NT05 don't come in 255/35/18. I will have to run 2 different sets front and back.

Btw, what are the widths of your wheels? I assume at least 10".
8.5 front and 10.5 rear on my 19's


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Mine handles nicely with my 245 fronts...but I've never compared to square so mabe I'm missing out
Just wait till you do man it's freaking awesome!!!!
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