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Book recommendations - Red Ink: Inside the High-Stakes Politics of the Federal Budget
I just started reading this book this morning....it's written by David Wessel. He's the economics editor for the Wall Street Journal.
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I'm only 50 pages through but it has been a quick, interesting read. It has been largely non-partisan (both sides have contributed to the royal abortion that is the federal budget, deficit and debt) and it discusses the economic history of our federal budget, as well. If you're at all interested in this kind of stuff, it's worth the pick up! It would also be nice to be able to discuss it with other people who've read the book.....
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Will definitely be reading this.
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Part of my job (and personal interest) is dealing with a lot of what the book has to do with, and I've already come across a lot of interesting facts that I was unaware of in the first 50 pages.
Highly recommend.
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Pretty sure this guy was on Fresh Air yesterday. I liked what I heard.
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He was. He's refreshingly non-partisan.
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The sad truth is we can all provide a spoiler to the book "The US Economy in the early 21st century"... and it doesn't end well.
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This book has data in it that is as recent as April of this year, so it provides commentary on the topic you reference.
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Does he cite sources well? I have my own repository of links that I'd like to build and if he uses something that I don't, it might be worth picking up. If he's just going by stuff on the OMB and GPO, then I'm not really interested.
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So, he utilizes quite a variety.
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Is it available in Kindle/Ipad format? I'm running out of room storing physical books lol.
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Edit, score, it is. Will download for the kindle!
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Just bought it. Headed down to the beach with the family for the weekend, I'll try to finish it while we're there.
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Same. Well, sort of.....heading to Table Rock Lake for the weekend and I'll be reading it down there, for sure.
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I'm only 35 pages in but I already get the feeling this should be compulsory reading for anyone who has ever paid taxes.
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I started absorbing the budget recently. Has anyone given this thought? It actuals seems straight foward that we are complete idiots, but there has to be more methodology to Congress' madness.
If you look at the budget, our Mandatory spending (SS, medicare, medicaid, interest on the debt etc....) is 2.4 Trillion. Our tax receipts are 2.6 Trillion. We barely cover our entitlements and interest on debt with taxes, and have nothing left over to pay for the actual "government". Does anyone else see this as a complete out-of-control way to budget our government? Am I looking at this too simplistically? That is why I say that neither the president (ANY president, current or past) and Congress aren't really serious about balancing the budget. No one wants to go through the pain of doing it (and it will be painful, from rich people down to poor people, there is no way to cure this without having everyone pay more and everyone take less). This is why I laugh at "relative politics" where, Obama for instance, talks about "reducing th deficit over 10 years" (Bush said the same, and they are long gone in 10 years). Am I supposed to be impressed that the amount of negative spending gets better? We are still deficit spending. That should be phrased "less sh!tty, but still sh!tty". See photo circled in red. And sorry it is huge. I couldn't resize at home with my MS paint-like editing software. Source: Page 208 of White House Budget http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...ets/budget.pdf
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Everybody in Washington knows it needs reform. But nobody wants to sacrifice their current election cycle to make meaningful reforms that only pay dividends decades into the future. Our government will only make the hard choices when it's forced to. So I wouldn't be surprised if we're in for a Greek like debacle (with US sized consequences) 15 years down the road. Quote:
When the Democrats submitted the PPACA to CBO budgeting review, they collected the new taxes for 7 years while only paying out benefits for 4 years in the first 10 years of the law which is how they got the "it cuts the deficit!" talking point. Every year after that is an actuarial disaster, although you'll never see that in the headlines of the newspapers. Both sides do it. There are a few elements within the Republican party who are committed to really bringing down the deficit and the debt, but they simply can't get enough political traction to do it. The budget cuts both parties agreed to last year? It doesn't actually cut the budget. It simply slows the rate of growth in the budget. I don't think there's been a year post WWII where Federal spending has actually declined in dollar terms.
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Yeah, honestly this year is the first time (age 36) where I have taken the initiative to look at the specifics.
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Fun statistic: the military spends $222,000 a second given the current budget
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There was this one quote with a pretty funny statistic. It was something like the Pentagon spends in a day and a half what the UN spends in a year. But that was in the 90s. Now it's like a UN budget every 2 and a half days.
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This forum seems to mimic our society. Threads about Zimmerman and Chic-Fil-A = 20+ pages. Threads about the budget = 19 replies in 3 days.
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