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Old 08-21-2012, 10:25 AM   #161
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so rarely do we get to see a thread where the people who are real drivers/have track experience make the sensible comments and those who dont know how to drive just bash. not saying everyone here who bashed cant drive, but those who drive on tracks know that regardless of all the details about the driver himself, Mark M said it best, the kid actually crashed the way you're supposed to given the situation. also, as said before, knowing the course is critical, this guy obviously didnt know the course, and was driving way too hard for not knowing it. a tricky turn for a first run, no doubt. in my first experience on a track, I had a similar experience - I approached a similar turn, albeit at significantly lower speed, and as such, an unnerving shimmy later and all I lost was 2-3 seconds off my lap time!
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Old 08-21-2012, 10:26 AM   #162
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Old 08-21-2012, 10:46 AM   #164
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Sooooooo much wrong in this! Pick you spot to start.
1. Who give a 16+- year old kid an M3 to drive.
2. very obvious he has never had any high speed driving lessons
3. he doesn't knew anything about where he is driving
4. Hand position is terrible
5. Driving faster than his skill set or lack of skill.
6. Seems to be using his body to turn the wheel instead of arms.
7. Death grip on the wheel.
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Old 08-21-2012, 11:06 AM   #165
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for some reason I think this is not a 'real' accident..looks fake!
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Old 08-21-2012, 11:07 AM   #166
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Old 08-21-2012, 11:22 AM   #167
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He's lucky that there was no big rocks in front of him.

The car can be repaired according to you ?
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Old 08-21-2012, 11:39 AM   #169
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Old 08-21-2012, 12:18 PM   #172
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Im pretty sure that is South Mountain in AZ. Kid looks familiar also. I think he has/had an E30 M3. That sucks....
I thought that road looked familier. I drove that back in March and I didn't crash!
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Kid crashes E46 M3 into a rocks




who is this what a dumbass
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Dude wasnt airborne until after he hit the rocks dude barely turned the wheel and then turned it back a little to aim for the biggest rock he could find. Pops his hoodie back on IN THE AIR btw lol and walks out like whoa
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He dosent even turn He just frezzes and drives straight
He does turn. Just as he crests the rise, he's got about 45 degrees of steering in. It just doesn't do much because the car is so unloaded from the crest of that little rise.

Whether by training or by dumb luck, he unwinds the wheel to go straight off instead of cranking the wheel more and burying the brake pedal, which would have made things far worse.

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I re-watched the video- does he actually go airborne over the crest of the hill before he slides off? Or do the wheels just unload? What I initially thought was him "landing" seems to just be where his wheels went off the edge of the road. Once he was in that situation could he have recovered? Would slamming on the brakes (if the car was unloaded) cause the car to "come back down" so that he could quickly let off the brakes and try to straighten his course?

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He should have gotten into the brakes as the car was dropping into that shallow low spot leading to the rise so he could dump speed as the car was overloaded coming up the face of that little rise. That way he could be off the brakes and going the right speed at the crest of the rise to dial in a little steering when the car was unloaded, and increase the steering input as the cars weight settled back down.

So basically, once he got to the bottom of the rise, he was done. The car was going off, it was just a matter of how ugly it was going to be. As someone else mentioned, he managed the off pretty well, either by luck or skill.

It IS possible to get through a corner like that by steering the hell out of the car on the face of the rise while the tires have a buttload of grip, and then allowing the car to slide out when the tires unload across the rise. But the too-tight arc you're steering early in the corner will take you off the inside if it continues, so you're counting on the not-tight enough arc the car travels after the rise to push you back out where you really want to be anyway.

Thats a very tricky way to handle an elevation change, though. Its a safe bet that it requires skills well beyond what the guy in the vid possesses.
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