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Old 08-24-2012, 10:13 PM   #1
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Couple quick questions!

How do Raceland coilovers rate from 1-10 if I'm just looking for a drop? I'm not worried about risking the quality of the ride n' stuff.. I'll just need it lowered by a few inches once I get my wheels/tires on..
Also, Anyone know where I can get some white/xenon bulbs for the corners and side markers? My lenses are clear and I'm not really feelin' the orange bulbs.. For the corners, is there a way to just not have them as running lights at all?
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:21 PM   #2
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How do Raceland coilovers rate from 1-10 if I'm just looking for a drop? I'm not worried about risking the quality of the ride n' stuff.. I'll just need it lowered by a few inches once I get my wheels/tires on..
Also, Anyone know where I can get some white/xenon bulbs for the corners and side markers? My lenses are clear and I'm not really feelin' the orange bulbs.. For the corners, is there a way to just not have them as running lights at all?
Links would be appreciated
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Raceland Coils will drop you really low, so 8. But if you get them, leave your stock rear shocks in. The shocks they come with aren't matched to the spring rates and the stock ones are actually more ideal at all heights.

I like the orangeness of the bulbs inside clear corners. But they make bulbs that have a coating of translucent silver paint. Go to a site like jlevisw.com or khoalty.com for that.

Search 'corner delete' in the General or DIY forums. There will be plenty of info there.
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Old 08-25-2012, 06:10 AM   #3
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Thanks for the thorough response man!
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Old 08-26-2012, 02:36 PM   #4
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So I found these just a minute ago, they're 19x8.5 all around, hyperblack CSL reps with a +40 offset.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/19-CSL-REPLI...ht_6423wt_1339

Are these considered relatively cheap? And what tire sizes should I run for a clean flush look after a drop? 235/35(40?) all around?

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Old 08-26-2012, 02:46 PM   #5
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I don't want to come in here and start a fight, but Raceland/Rokkor coilovers are low quality and I would strongly advise against installing them on your BMW.

If you've already decided you want them, at least do what Alec said above as the rear shocks included with Racelands are far too bouncy to be considered safe.
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:14 PM   #6
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How do they compare to the stock suspension? What'll I feel different?
Also I'm doing it more for the drop than the performance.

My friend has them on his e36 1j swap and he said they're perfectly fine..

And no fight intended haha no worries!
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Here is a 57 page thread on Racelands:

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=710693

More info:

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=844557

This pretty much sums it up:

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showpos...7&postcount=17
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:27 PM   #8
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I'm reading 90% positive feedback.

I'm not taking my car to the track or anything.. I mean yeah I'll do a couple pulls here and there but for the most part I'm not rough with it nor abuse it at all.

Some people hate godspeed, some people hate eibach, and some people hate raceland.. in the end, it's just a matter of what you can afford, and your personal preference.
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Good luck finding people that actually have a good reason to hate:

Bilstein
H&R
Koni
Eibach
KW
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TC Kline

I could go on.

Also, keep in mind who is posting this positive feedback. Are these people with an established presence on the forum who are known for giving good advice, or are they brand new users who don't have a clue?
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:37 PM   #10
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I've got friends who use and who have used raceland's and they don't see any issues with them. Issues will be found with anything if you're really picky and if you expect godspeed or eibach quality from a 300-400 dollar suspension setup. Personally I don't see there being a problem if I'm being nice to the car as a daily driver..
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I've got friends who use and who have used raceland's and they don't see any issues with them. Issues will be found with anything if you're really picky and if you expect godspeed or eibach quality from a 300-400 dollar suspension setup. Personally I don't see there being a problem if I'm being nice to the car as a daily driver..
First of all, two periods in a row doesn't mean anything. You should be using 3 periods, which is called an ellipsis.

Second, your car cost in the neighborhood of $40,000 when it was new. I know it's probably only worth around $10k today, but that doesn't mean it deserves a low quality suspension set up.

Also, keep in mind where these parts are coming from. China. Now this is not to say everything that comes out of China is junk. My iPad & iPhone are perfect examples of high quality, Chinese manufactured goods. Unfortunately, Raceland/Rokkor does not employ the same quality control and quality assurance standards that a company like Apple, or H&R or any other trusted brand uses. Your friend may have had good luck with Racelands, but because there are no ISO standards followed in the manufacturing of Raceland coilovers, you may not be so lucky.

In addition, you will likely be requiring a myriad of other components in addition to a new suspension set up to actually improve the feel and handling of your BMW. Rear shock mounts, front control arms, control arm bushings, rear trailing arm bushings, front and rear reinforcement plates, etc.
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Alright, I'll be sure to use three periods next time..

Anyway, I'll be purchasing raceland's because the performance is already pretty top notch. I could care less about the feel, there's no way it'll be worse than my Z. I'll adapt and be fine with it within a couple days. I'm not picky like most people, plus my friend's raceland setup doesn't feel bad at all, so I have something to go off of. I don't think I'll be needing any other components, if I wanted to treat this car like an M3, I would. Like I said before, I'm primarily looking for a drop.

Back to my other previous post - What tire size(s) would look good on 19x8.5 wheels all around, without any rubbing issues? (Post-drop).
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Alright, I'll be sure to use three periods next time..

Anyway, I'll be purchasing raceland's because the performance is already pretty top notch. I could care less about the feel, there's no way it'll be worse than my Z. I'll adapt and be fine with it within a couple days. I'm not picky like most people, plus my friend's raceland setup doesn't feel bad at all, so I have something to go off of. I don't think I'll be needing any other components, if I wanted to treat this car like an M3, I would. Like I said before, I'm primarily looking for a drop.

Back to my other previous post - What tire size(s) would look good on 19x8.5 wheels all around, without any rubbing issues? (Post-drop).
Alright, this is a lost cause. I'll be waiting for your, "My expansion tank BLEW UP!" thread in a few weeks.
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Are you on your period? Damn dude haha relax. I told you I won't be abusing the suspension at all, so I'm not worried one bit. Do your own thing and don't worry about me, all I asked for was a 0-10 rating.
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Are you on your period? Damn dude haha relax. I told you I won't be abusing the suspension at all, so I'm not worried one bit. Do your own thing and don't worry about me, all I asked for was a 0-10 rating.
1. I am not a female (having a period is impossible for me)
2. Racelands are low quality suspension components
3. Replacing broken and worn out parts on your car does not mean you are treating your car like an M3, it means you are maintaining the car properly. No shame in that.
4. Racelands are junk.

You are abusing your car by installing Racelands. End of story.

Definition of abuse: 1. to use wrongly or improperly; misuse.

Lastly, I have nothing to worry about. My car features quality suspension components manufactured by Bilstein and H&R. I rate these components 10/10. My car has an excellent ride height and even better handling performance.
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1. I am not a female (having a period is impossible for me)
2. Racelands are low quality suspension components
3. Replacing broken and worn out parts on your car does not mean you are treating your car like an M3, it means you are maintaining the car properly. No shame in that.
4. Racelands are junk.

You are abusing your car by installing Racelands. End of story.

Definition of abuse: 1. to use wrongly or improperly; misuse.

Lastly, I have nothing to worry about. My car features quality suspension components manufactured by Bilstein and H&R. I rate these components 10/10. My car has an excellent ride height and even better handling performance.
+1. I have Bilsteins and ground control I rate them 10/10. Racelands are low quality. Good luck.

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OP, just get H&R Race Springs if all you care about is stance.
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Damn it people, such misinformation, I'm ashamed to be associated with you!

Tock, you're the worst...for shame.

When an ellipsis comes at the end of a sentence, it's actually four dots--three only if it's in the middle of a sentence. I love the elipsis...almost more than my car.

OP, if you're looking at playing around with your suspension 'just' for a drop, and you want larger tires, I'd recommend you read many, many more threads. You're messing around with the suspension on a $40K car and taking the advice of fanatics!

Guys that get new shocks or whatever, certainly like them...they just paid money for them. There's a natural bias built into their reports.

Before you take the advice of anyone here seriously, you need to read a lot of their posts--guarantee for many you'll realize that maybe you don't want to weight their advice as heavily as others. If you see they have a history about having sex with beagles, say, you'd want to factor that into their recommendation about your suspension, wouldn't you?

I, personally, am of the ryfkm school when it comes to many mods. I'll just say before you drop too low or go too hella flush, that you consider unanticipated consequences--breaking up with your obese friends, never carrying anything in your trunk, not being able to date the ladies (or guys) on other side of speedbumps. Potholes, off road trips (I'm on messed up roads), snow, mudslides. Also, it's nice to give the squirrels and chipmunks a fighting chance.

Have you already done all your cooling system work? CCV, icv, ,tb, vac hoses, pulleys, belts, plugs, coil boots, vcg, ps hoses...etc?

If so, have fun with whatever you do...but don't try to find 'better' and cheaper. I have OE shocks...and I think they're Sachs (Boge was my e36's shocks iirc)...you will never go wrong OE.

Just read until you're throwing up and convulsing. Tremors don't count...you need to convulse. If you do, you stand a 10% chance of randomly doing close to 30% of what our friends the engineers at bmw built for you.

If you're an automotive engineering grad student, my apologies, otherwise just don't stray too far off the path...and consider your sources wisely.

Remember about the beagle thing though...lots of that going on around here.
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