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Old 09-05-2012, 04:23 PM   #41
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steptronic is like M1-M4 If I'm correct?
1-5 you have use of all the gears
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Old 09-05-2012, 04:27 PM   #42
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Old 09-05-2012, 04:42 PM   #43
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:37 PM   #44
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D is regular driving mode. S is a sport mode where it revs higher before it shifts. Both D and S, the car shifts for you. In M mode (M1, M2, M3, M4, M5), you push the lever to indicate when you want to shift, so in theory it gives you more control.

My issue is that when in M, it doesn't shift as quickly as you want it to so you have to actually "shift" earlier than you would and then the car responds. Also, eventually, if you don't shift in M mode, the car will shift for you to not over-rev the engine.

I'd be a much bigger fan of STEP if the shifts in M mode were more crisp. One thing it does give you is the downshift when wanting extra oomph to pass, for instance. But, that's a whole different topic and I don't want to detract from the original post.

EDIT: Oh, and to answer the question, I mostly drive in S mode, except for those few times I'm downshifting (which automatically makes it M mode) for passing power. I eventually go back to S mode.
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:55 PM   #45
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D is regular driving mode. S is a sport mode where it revs higher before it shifts. Both D and S, the car shifts for you. In M mode (M1, M2, M3, M4, M5), you push the lever to indicate when you want to shift, so in theory it gives you more control.

My issue is that when in M, it doesn't shift as quickly as you want it to so you have to actually "shift" earlier than you would and then the car responds. Also, eventually, if you don't shift in M mode, the car will shift for you to not over-rev the engine.

I'd be a much bigger fan of STEP if the shifts in M mode were more crisp. One thing it does give you is the downshift when wanting extra oomph to pass, for instance. But, that's a whole different topic and I don't want to detract from the original post.

EDIT: Oh, and to answer the question, I mostly drive in S mode, except for those few times I'm downshifting (which automatically makes it M mode) for passing power. I eventually go back to S mode.
How do I get into S mode?
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Old 09-05-2012, 06:12 PM   #46
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shift from drive over and dont move it up or down
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Old 09-05-2012, 06:27 PM   #47
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How do I get into S mode?
you move the selector to the left once you're already in D and on your dash you will see S D.
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Old 09-05-2012, 07:08 PM   #48
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you move the selector to the left once you're already in D and on your dash you will see S D.
I was used to being in D or switching it over for M, rookie move but in other news S mode is way better than D and I'm not crazy about M now that I know either
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Old 09-05-2012, 07:31 PM   #49
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Bought my 2000 Touring new. If I had wanted a manual transmission, I could have saved myself about 1700 bucks. I happened not to want the cheap way out. Mine has 74K on the clock. Oh, no mods, now or ever. Why? I doubt if either you are I are as good as the factory designers or engineers. They didn't create the Ultimate Driving Machine by accident. Why would you want to fuk up what they did?
The easy way out? Nobody buys a stick to save money. Last time I checked an auto was easier to drive than manual.
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Old 09-05-2012, 08:45 PM   #50
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The easy way out? Nobody buys a stick to save money. Last time I checked an auto was easier to drive than manual.
I don't buy in to the ultimate driving machine crap but I do believe that autos are cheaper than manuals in the enthusiast secondary market segment, I would have had 30,000 miles more on a manual car identical to mine than my auto for the same price due to fanboi manual following, I bet that most of the manual nazis would get smoked by a good driver in a step.
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Old 09-05-2012, 09:08 PM   #51
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I don't buy in to the ultimate driving machine crap but I do believe that autos are cheaper than manuals in the enthusiast secondary market segment, I would have had 30,000 miles more on a manual car identical to mine than my auto for the same price due to fanboi manual following, I bet that most of the manual nazis would get smoked by a good driver in a step.
I completely understand what your saying but the guy bought his car brand new. And was making the argument that from the factory manuals are cheaper. He didn't buy used so the mileage would be irrelevant. Plus I would think that with a short shifter and aftermarket clutch/flywheel combined with the lag of a step that a manual would still be quicker. But even if not its the control and driving experience that come with a stick. BMWs aren't about practicality they are machines designed for the driving enthusiast. Ok I'm done don't wanna hijack the tread anymore than I already have. My apologies op.

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Old 09-05-2012, 10:55 PM   #52
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I was used to being in D or switching it over for M, rookie move but in other news S mode is way better than D and I'm not crazy about M now that I know either
Yup, once you go left in to S mode, you just don't shift and it stays in S mode. If you start shifting, that makes it M. To get out of M or S mode, just shift it back right into D. If I go into M mode and I want to get back to S, I just go right to D, then quickly left to S and I'm set again. The tranny doesn't care when you move between the modes.
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:02 PM   #53
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:04 PM   #54
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:41 PM   #55
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I don't buy in to the ultimate driving machine crap but I do believe that autos are cheaper than manuals in the enthusiast secondary market segment, I would have had 30,000 miles more on a manual car identical to mine than my auto for the same price due to fanboi manual following, I bet that most of the manual nazis would get smoked by a good driver in a step.
So you just said that you wanted a manual but got the auto because it was cheaper, yet you think people who prefer manual are stupid? Manual is more fun than auto, it has little to do with speed. Auto's are fine if all you want is a sit in and relax car, as a sports car, I don't get it. As for mileage, who cares? I would happily buy another BMW with 250k or more miles on it... these cars run forever.

I'm really not trying to argue manual over auto, just saying that your argument doesn't make any sense...
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:56 PM   #56
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This will turn into an auto vs. manual thread in 3...2...1...
LOL Zell. You might have been a couple of posts to early. Hopefully it won't fully get there.
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Old 09-06-2012, 01:04 AM   #57
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Another steptronic right here. Just smoked corners and sidemarkers. Also a slight drop on springs. No major future mods other than maybe tints, clear taillights, and maintainance. And i usually drive in manual mode


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Old 09-06-2012, 01:37 AM   #58
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Old 09-06-2012, 01:38 AM   #59
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Yeah that's one reason why I don't manually shift because of the half a second delay in shifting gears.
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Old 09-06-2012, 08:34 AM   #60
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So you just said that you wanted a manual but got the auto because it was cheaper, yet you think people who prefer manual are stupid? Manual is more fun than auto, it has little to do with speed. Auto's are fine if all you want is a sit in and relax car, as a sports car, I don't get it. As for mileage, who cares? I would happily buy another BMW with 250k or more miles on it... these cars run forever.

I'm really not trying to argue manual over auto, just saying that your argument doesn't make any sense...
When did I say that people who pref a manual are stupid? I was talking about the guys post and people who actually buy in to the ultimate driving machine stock is the best it can be crap.

I don't care what anyone says, to get the right car for the right price you need time, if you don't want to over pay for a nice 3er you need time which not a lot of people have, just like time not a lot of people can travel a long distance to get to one, not everyone has a infinite level of cash.

I bought my car because for the mileage, condition and price it was a stand out winner over what the other stuff available was. Not everyone buys a car for one reason and 50 went through my head when picking this one but I'm happy with it. No one said people who pref manuals are stupid
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