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Old 09-10-2012, 03:53 PM   #121
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Blksab replace your springs. It gets noticeably lower and if anything were to go wrong, you'd void the warranty by removing the helpers. The ride is probably going to be more rough without the helpers, to.

And ac yes I do have pictures I'll upload them within the hour. I'm thinking about using the xi springs to get more of the slammed look im going for.
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Old 09-10-2012, 04:18 PM   #122
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Old 09-10-2012, 05:01 PM   #123
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I wouldn't remove your helper spring you will void the warranty. Just spoke with ST on the issue. They are working on the issue.
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Old 09-10-2012, 06:45 PM   #124
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So I received my st Coilovers and are 60-200. I haven't installed them but would like to know more before I do so. Are these the correct springs!?
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Old 09-10-2012, 06:55 PM   #125
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So I received my st Coilovers and are 60-200. I haven't installed them but would like to know more before I do so. Are these the correct springs!?
Just talked to Adam at ST. You will need to call him for replacements. 559-875-0222 ext 121
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Old 09-10-2012, 07:04 PM   #126
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I just called him. He said to call him back tomorrow and he'll clarify on if these are going to be needing replacement or not. Hes actually dealing with this issue as wevspeaknwith the german engineers. I really hope this issue gets resolved because I wanna get these installed already!
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Old 09-10-2012, 07:47 PM   #127
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I wouldn't remove your helper spring you will void the warranty. Just spoke with ST on the issue. They are working on the issue.
You seem to have a lot of insider information.

After saying "The standard E46 model has a 60-200 main spring and 20-60-80 helper spring", you must now have a reason for recommending that the standard springs be replaced.

Would you care to shed some light on "the issue" ?
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Old 09-11-2012, 12:02 AM   #128
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I recently installed ST coilovers on my 04 330i. I've set the front to the lowest setting, but it doesn't even close the wheel gap, albeit it's close. I've checked to make sure the struts went in all the way in to their seats. I'm using OE strut mounts. I wonder if ST's are not designed to work with them, but having searched the forum i found nothing to that effect. I also checked out others setups on here and it seems that people are dropping the front lower than what i have been able to do. I'm perplexed, any ideas?
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Old 09-12-2012, 01:41 PM   #129
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Wess, have you received the 50-200 springs? They make a noticeable difference on the drop height, and i highly recommend dealing with all the hassle to get them from ST. Mine got shipped for free also.

On another note, I'm still not happy with the ride height, so I tried calling Adam at ST and he didn't pick up. I'm going to ask for the xi springs because from what Kris said, they're suppose to dramatically drop the car. Which is exactly what I'm looking for. I'll update soon
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Old 09-12-2012, 01:54 PM   #130
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Just talked to adam, he said that unless my hub centric measurement is greater then than 355mm, that I could not receive the xi springs for free. I'm positive it is no where near 355mm, but I'm interested to what my hub centric measurement was with when i was running 50-200 springs. I can't remember what i wrote down on my tech sheet but the number 337mm pops into my head.

That doesn't make much sense to me since the MAX with 50-200 springs is 355, when my hub centric measurement was 337mm on the 60-200 springs. I know that measurement is their deal breaker to tell if the customer should receive new springs or not.

By the way, if anyone is interested, the xi springs cost $89 per spring + shipping
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I do not recommend any other spring but the 60-200. I have been talking to ST team about this hopefully I will have some news to post soon.
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Old 09-12-2012, 04:18 PM   #132
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I don't understand what application the 60-200 AND the 50-200 springs are for. All I know is that the 60-200 springs are, in my opinion, are garbage. The ride with them is extremely rough, the lowering height is no where near what they advertised.

I'm interested in what those applications are, and what the deal is with ST lately with these springs.
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The 60-200 for the E46.
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Old 09-12-2012, 06:47 PM   #134
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Then what is the 50-200 for? And why are people happier with the 50-200 than with the recommended 60-200?
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Then what is the 50-200 for? And why are people happier with the 50-200 than with the recommended 60-200?
I am not sure since my ST customers are not having this issue. Neither are my KW V1 customers.

The 50-200 is the same length as the 60-200.
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Then why do you keep saying for us to get 50-200 springs replacements and then saying that 60-200 are the correct ones?
There has to be a noticeable difference because many on here are finding this to be true. A manufacturer would not make two different spring numbers if they weren't different. Where is the logic to that!?
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Then why do you keep saying for us to get 50-200 springs replacements and then saying that 60-200 are the correct ones?
There has to be a noticeable difference because many on here are finding this to be true. A manufacturer would not make two different spring numbers if they weren't different. Where is the logic to that!?
I am not ST dude. I didn't recommend that. I believe that is something ST tried. The 50-200 is a different spring rate than the 60-200. These springs that KW make are not just used for any particular application in some cases. You might find these springs used on other kits.

Has everyone submitted a COMPLETED tech sheet to ST?
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Gotcha. And no I'm gonna try installing them first. If they don't sit right then I'll be filling out the form. I really hope these springs don't let me down.
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I am not ST dude. I didn't recommend that. I believe that is something ST tried. The 50-200 is a different spring rate than the 60-200. These springs that KW make are not just used for any particular application in some cases. You might find these springs used on other kits.

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During the install make sure to set the coilover housing in that hub correctly. I would recommend cleaning up the hub. The hub on my E60 is similar. Here is a link with a few pics on how we did my install http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...22#post6759922
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Old 09-13-2012, 12:35 PM   #140
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Just got off the phone with Adam at KW. He said the same thing about the hub needing to be cleaned and opened up all the way so that the strut can sit correctly. Is there any other way of opening that Bhubaneswar because I don't have a ballpoint pickle fork.
He said a flathead screw driver would work. Is it that easy to pry open kris?
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During the install make sure to set the coilover housing in that hub correctly. I would recommend cleaning up the hub. The hub on my E60 is similar. Here is a link with a few pics on how we did my install http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...22#post6759922
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