Horsepowerfreaks Ethanol Z4M build

Originally Posted by Heydin

Actually, Chris was sold this system knowing that we, ProEFI, had not yet had an application working for the Z4M, because we had not had a car in our shop to diagnose and sort through any errors that might occur. Chris was also told that there would be no issues running the engine, however keeping everything else happy was to be determined. To which Chris replied, We will figure it out. I have been working closely with John, even on my off days, to diagnose and figure out what is going on. After looking at the information he sent me it seems that there is a ground loop in the system providing back feed that is making the computer unhappy.

I say this not to start an argument, but don't discredit us for an application that we stated FROM THE BEGINNING was NOT tested and that had not yet been used.

"John traced all the wires and they trace through correctly. We are now checking ot see if it's in the CAN bus. ProEFI is providing lots of help. It's the first Z4M they've done so there will be a learning curve.
Chris"

Like Chris said we are trying to be as helpful as possible, but it is hard to diagnosis a car without physically having the car in front of you. John and I will hopefully continue working together to solve this issue.

So basar, I can assure you, at least from my end, that we care about our customers and that I care about their investments into their car. I look forward to seeing your car run with ProEFI, however I ask for your patience and understanding while we work through these initial issues we see on many of our application in their beginning stages. I understand your patience has been spread thin, however that should not reflect on us. We have been as prompt as possible in returning questions and technical support to the staff at HPF.

Hopefully in the end this build can reflect the great potential I know rests in both companies.

Hayden

Where is Lutz at in all this with the Z4M in their shop? Any feedback from them at all?

Originally Posted by HPF Kirk

Where is Lutz at in all this with the Z4M in their shop? Any feedback from them at all?

I think they're trying to avoid following in the same footsteps and are hoping that the issues are worked out first before going in circles.

Originally Posted by HPF Kirk

Where is Lutz at in all this with the Z4M in their shop? Any feedback from them at all?

Kirk, that's a great question I don't have the answer to. I meant to give them a call today, but got caught up with other things around the shop. I'll do my best to give them a call tomorrow and report back unless they do so beforehand.

I'd love to see these Z4M's boosted and on the road. I won't butt heads with people, because the time I spend bickering, I could spend doing more important things. I'm at the disposal of anyone with the same mindset.

Hayden

Originally Posted by Heydin

Kirk, that's a great question I don't have the answer to. I meant to give them a call today, but got caught up with other things around the shop. I'll do my best to give them a call tomorrow and report back unless they do so beforehand.

I'd love to see these Z4M's boosted and on the road. I won't butt heads with people, because the time I spend bickering, I could spend doing more important things. I'm at the disposal of anyone with the same mindset.

Hayden

I say you double down on red.

Originally Posted by MarcusLSB

I say you double down on red.

You mean max bet with bonus right?!

Originally Posted by Commanderwiggin

You mean max bet with bonus right?!

No, Marcus bets the minimum for maximum winngin potential

Originally Posted by dallasberry

No, Marcus bets the minimum for maximum winngin potential

... WHY NO MAX BET ON ALL FRUIT BONUS MARCUS! lol

Originally Posted by MarcusLSB

I say you double down on red.

I've learned my lesson from taking gambling advice from you Marcus...

Originally Posted by Heydin

I've learned my lesson from taking gambling advice from you Marcus...

Hahaha

Originally Posted by Heydin

Actually, Chris was sold this system knowing that we, ProEFI, had not yet had an application working for the Z4M, because we had not had a car in our shop to diagnose and sort through any errors that might occur. Chris was also told that there would be no issues running the engine, however keeping everything else happy was to be determined. To which Chris replied, We will figure it out. I have been working closely with John, even on my off days, to diagnose and figure out what is going on. After looking at the information he sent me it seems that there is a ground loop in the system providing back feed that is making the computer unhappy.

I say this not to start an argument, but don't discredit us for an application that we stated FROM THE BEGINNING was NOT tested and that had not yet been used.

"John traced all the wires and they trace through correctly. We are now checking ot see if it's in the CAN bus. ProEFI is providing lots of help. It's the first Z4M they've done so there will be a learning curve.
Chris"

Like Chris said we are trying to be as helpful as possible, but it is hard to diagnosis a car without physically having the car in front of you. John and I will hopefully continue working together to solve this issue.

So basar, I can assure you, at least from my end, that we care about our customers and that I care about their investments into their car. I look forward to seeing your car run with ProEFI, however I ask for your patience and understanding while we work through these initial issues we see on many of our application in their beginning stages. I understand your patience has been spread thin, however that should not reflect on us. We have been as prompt as possible in returning questions and technical support to the staff at HPF.

Hopefully in the end this build can reflect the great potential I know rests in both companies.

Hayden

Thank you for the info. I hope you can solve these issues. I will keep my mind busy for a small amount of time...

Hope to see nice news on this topic.

Originally Posted by Beedub

Damn basar.... This sucks.

Very interesting that Jason would reply to you with "what problem"..... Very interesting indeed.

Thanks bro there will be new updates next week hopefully, i wish i had made my own kit but it is too late. Lets see how it will go from now on.

Originally Posted by PEI330Ci

I'm sure Larry is a top level tuner. (Not disputing)

The question for Basar is who is going to provide product support to him in Turkey?

I hate to say it, but the most cost effective solution is to wait until HPF or Lutz Performance figures out the Pro-EFI on the Z4.

That is a really good point

Originally Posted by Cipri

Can't you just use E46 harness and ECU on this car?
I'm sure a good tuner can set it up.

I can but that would cost of time and money since i will need new e46 harness and change the key and ews.

Originally Posted by jacobs323i

you are right in terms of cost, but one way to cut down on costs would be to not fly Neel in but rather rent a day of dyno and connect remotely via laptop that way you exclude his travel costs. basar I know spending more sux but with what you have spent so far why skimp on something so important

Thats right, Credit cards need to heat up again

Pro-efi is OUT !

HPF AEM plug and play ecu, e46 m3 ecu, key, ews, brand new engine harness for e46 m3 is on their way some other stuff will be bought ... Also a e46 m3 gauge (cluster) will be bought.

So when AEM infinity becomes available to HPF M3 owners i will be able to use it

Lets get it on!

Originally Posted by basar13

Pro-efi is OUT !

HPF AEM plug and play ecu, e46 m3 ecu, key, ews, brand new engine harness for e46 m3 is on their way some other stuff will be bought ... Also a e46 m3 gauge (cluster) will be bought.

So when AEM infinity becomes available to HPF M3 owners i will be able to use it

Lets get it on!

Sweet! Can't wait to see what this little monster will do!