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Old 06-18-2012, 12:33 PM   #41
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Oh you're buying brand new? Then you might as well go with a Z4M Coupe rack... No way in hell I'd spend more than $500 on a steering rack swap
Time to hunt down used parts / waiting. I rather just order a new one. Also I know the condition it is in. Unless you can point me to a ready to buy 330i ZHP rack in good condition, then I will just get a new one.

I just will order a Comp/CSL one. Based on the M3 threads you are on, sounds like the 330I one is a quicker for sure, it is not really a direct swap. Unless I miss read something? Cause if it only the 3 parts and now DSC issues then I will order that instead.
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Old 06-18-2012, 12:39 PM   #42
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So when did we go off topic here? This is about steering rack not what is on my car. You want to get nit picky wait till I post my build thread then start complaining.

Considering I have everything from the CF roof down I think I qualify. Only thing that will not be the same is the glass, seats, and fuel tank. To change the glass is really a waste cause it scratch's to easy, I needed larger seats so went Recar XL's and frankly I like the longer range fuel tank. All the rest has been changed to the same or upgrade over OE.
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Old 06-18-2012, 12:41 PM   #43
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So when did we go off topic here? This is about steering rack not what is on my car. You want to get nit picky wait till I post my build thread then start complaining.

Considering I have everything from the CF roof down I think I qualify. Only thing that will not be the same is the glass, seats, and fuel tank. To change the glass is really a waste cause it scratch's to easy, I needed larger seats so went Recar XL's and frankly I like the longer range fuel tank. All the rest has been changed to the same or upgrade over OE.
Ohhh the suspense!
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Old 06-18-2012, 12:45 PM   #44
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Ohhh the suspense!
You and me both. Intake, Cams, Bumper, and software should be here in the next week.
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Old 06-18-2012, 01:27 PM   #45
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Time to hunt down used parts / waiting. I rather just order a new one. Also I know the condition it is in. Unless you can point me to a ready to buy 330i ZHP rack in good condition, then I will just get a new one.

I just will order a Comp/CSL one. Based on the M3 threads you are on, sounds like the 330I one is a quicker for sure, it is not really a direct swap. Unless I miss read something? Cause if it only the 3 parts and now DSC issues then I will order that instead.
As far as I'm aware it's a direct swap besides the tie rods

There are plenty of vendors that sell refurbished racks for various models, (rackdoctor.net is one) so I would consider those before committing to a brand new rack (which is actually refurbished anyway)
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The thing about refurbished racks that concerns me is that the actual gearing/mechanisms aren't rebuilt (as far as I know). All they do is reaseal the things (again, as far as I know) so who's to say that you're getting a tight rack? Maybe they check for play/tolerances and only pass off "good" ones?

If anyone can clear that up. Also I'd think BMW racks are remanufactured/rebuilt whereas rack doctor racks are refurbished... which means cleaned, re-sealed, and painted.
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Old 06-18-2012, 02:24 PM   #47
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As far as I'm aware it's a direct swap besides the tie rods

There are plenty of vendors that sell refurbished racks for various models, (rackdoctor.net is one) so I would consider those before committing to a brand new rack (which is actually refurbished anyway)
Thank you, emailed them to see if they have one. 32132282642 is the part I am looking for so we will see. Keep you all posted.
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Thank you, emailed them to see if they have one. 32132282642 is the part I am looking for so we will see. Keep you all posted.
You have a CSL M3 in sacramento?
The rack number you posted is the ZCP/CSL rack.
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/partxref....=on&showeur=on
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Yeah that was the part I got on real oem as well. Just wanted to make sure I was not missing something as all the images I have seen of the part have a 7 part number.
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Good Luck!
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...=930459&page=2

http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=412413

There is the build thread of the car. Luck was not needed. Sorry to be off topic again.
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So I have been researching the steering racks and have found two different numbers for this part.

Some say the part number is 32132282296 while others say it is 32136757651.

Anybody have confirmation of this.

Found this in an old thread

Part #----------Models Used & ratio
32131096283 Early 323's and 328's (pre-9/98 build) 15.4:1?
32131097315 Most 323's and 328's (9/98 thru 4/99 build) 15.4:1?
32136750200 Overboosted racks (build dates 4/99 to 9/01) unknown
32136753438 Overboosted racks (build dates 4/99 to 9/01) unknown
32136753807 Overboosted racks (build dates 4/99 to 9/01) unknown
32136753853 Overboosted racks (build dates 4/99 to 9/01) unknown
32136755065 Good 325 rack (9/01 build and later) also used on 330 4/01 to 9/01 15.4:1
32136757651 Good 330 rack (9/01 build and later) 15.4:1
32132282296 330 ZHP rack 13.7:1
32132229397 M3 rack 15.4:1
32132282642 M3 comp package or CSL rack 14.5:1
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32136757650 is apparently the number for the ZHP rack, for which 5+ pictures are attached in the thread linked. The manufacturing dates for the racks coincide with the ZHP production dates.

Thread: http://www.e46fanatics.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=806967

Part #32132282296 was for the M Sports package II cars manufactured between 04/01-09/01 as per realoem. However, (speculation) there is a good chance that the -650 rack has -296 internals, as the European/Canadian M Sports Pack II and ZHP shared many parts/characteristics. At one point, they were even claimed to be the same package apart from ZHP's aggressive cams(/speculation).

As far as I'm concerned, after actually having owned/driven both cars, the difference in feel is already there. But I hope the link to the thread above will help someone who has to see some part #'s.
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32136757650 is apparently the number for the ZHP rack, for which 5+ pictures are attached in the thread linked. The manufacturing dates for the racks coincide with the ZHP production dates.

Thread: http://www.e46fanatics.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=806967

Part #32132282296 was for the M Sports package II cars manufactured between 04/01-09/01 as per realoem. However, (speculation) there is a good chance that the -650 rack has -296 internals, as the European/Canadian M Sports Pack II and ZHP shared many parts/characteristics. At one point, they were even claimed to be the same package apart from ZHP's aggressive cams(/speculation).

As far as I'm concerned, after actually having owned/driven both cars, the difference in feel is already there. But I hope the link to the thread above will help someone who has to see some part #'s.
Thanks for the info.
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Found this in an old thread

----------Models Used & ratio
Early 323's and 328's (pre-9/98 build) 15.4:1? (15.5:1)
Most 323's and 328's (9/98 thru 4/99 build) 15.4:1? (15.5:1)
Good 330 rack (9/01 build and later) 15.4:1 (13.7:1)
330 ZHP rack 13.7:1
M3 rack 15.4:1
M3 comp package or CSL rack 14.5:1
as far as i know from my research there are only two ratios for the non-Ms E46s.
one being 15.5:1 and the other 13.7:1. (the 13.7:1 ratio is NOT specific only to the 330-zhp). BMW went to that ratio on the 330s on the '02 model.
the M3 has a 15.4:1 (yes 15.4:1 and not the 15.5:1) or the 14.5:1 in the CSL/ZCP
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OP, mind if I ask how much the dealership charged you for labor?
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as far as i know from my research there are only two ratios for the non-Ms E46s.
one being 15.5:1 and the other 13.7:1. (the 13.7:1 ratio is NOT specific only to the 330-zhp). BMW went to that ratio on the 330s on the '02 model.
the M3 has a 15.4:1 (yes 15.4:1 and not the 15.5:1) or the 14.5:1 in the CSL/ZCP
If there is a single ratio for the non-ZHP and the ZHP, why is there two part numbers for the steering rack (-650 for the ZHP and -651 for the non-ZHP, see pictures in the thread I linked)?
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If there is a single ratio for the non-ZHP and the ZHP, why is there two part numbers for the steering rack (-650 for the ZHP and -651 for the non-ZHP, see pictures in the thread I linked)?
Alex is 100% correct. This info (including the difference in part#) has been explained numeruos times (in the past month alone) lets see if you can find it.
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If there is a single ratio for the non-ZHP and the ZHP, why is there two part numbers for the steering rack (-650 for the ZHP and -651 for the non-ZHP, see pictures in the thread I linked)?
that was answered in the 3rd post in this thread.

BMW on its remanufactured parts, BMW often uses the part number with an increment of one on last digit.
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Oh lord. From now on anyone who gets anything zhp should just say, "I got a steering rack from it-which-cannot-be-named. Combined with a steering wheel from it-which-cannot-be-named and control arms from it-which-cannot-be-named I have changed the entire steering experience!"

And SeanC has had a zhp and non-zhp so Alex, Mango, and everyone else is out to lunch. You will not change his mind, and you shouldn't, because he has owned both and none of you others have. You just endlessly research part numbers and ETK diagrams. I too have owned both as well and concur with Sean's statements.
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