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This is America. Not Europe. Waiters dont get paid hourly nor are entitled to overtime or benefits. If you cant tip, service yourself. Simple as that. When you dine out and you recieve a service, you tip. Servers tip out bussers, bartenders, expo ect based on sales. If you rack a high bill and tip cheap, they are losing more money than earning.
I bet you don't tip the dealer at casinos or strippers. People like you make me sick, take hospitality 101 and you'll see 20% is the standard for good service. If you want to be a cheap skate because you hate your life/job don't waste a good servers time who could have had a well-paying client in his table for an hour. Most servers are people paying for their kids or their way through college, They're paying taxes too and you view them as someone on unemployment by choice. Pathetic. What goes around comes around.
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Yeah, either way the cost increases, got it.
I'd rather that te delivery boy get paid a reasonable wage by his employer. Either way my cost goes up, but one way doesn't leave a kid feeling entitled to getting paid more because he chose the wrong job.
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Bingo. They chose a low paying job. Not my problem.
Why would I tip my dealer? Did he somehow provide me a service by dealing me blackjack? Was that his excellent service? And no thank you, I'm not going to take hospitality 101. I didn't get a college degree to be a waiter. I worked customer service for five years and didn't get tipped once, again, because I was in an industry that society doesn't deem tip-worthy because my company paid a decent wage. Not nearly enough for the bullshit I put up with, but again, you didn't see me asking customers to supplement me. You want to get paid more? Ask your boss. Not me. You want to tip everybody around you that fulfills the obligations inherent in their job descriptions? By all means, tip them whatever you want. But I'm not going to sit here and feel bad just because your boss doesn't pay you a living wage.
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Are assholes but when they get it they appreciate it and the gratitude I get from these people when I leave my tip makes it worth leaving one no body chooses to have a shitty job it happens because life never works out the way you planned don't make it worse by stiffing them on the tip Sent from my VM670 using Bimmer App
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NOVAbimmer^^^Have you ever worked in the service/hospitality industry? Valet, waiter, bartender, etc.
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Strippers are a completely different story. Her job is simply to separate me from my dollar bills. The harder she works, the more she gets.
That's pure capitalism. But no, I don't throw down money just because I happened to walk in.
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And now we're saying that waiters don't expect tips? If you believe that, I've got some beachfront property in Arizona you just need to see.
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I've waited tables, tended bar, valeted (ended up managing the valet department), etc. and typically didn't expect a tip every single time....but I also tried to do a better than average job to warrant a tip. The way that I see it is that if I'm going to valet my car, eat out at a restaurant or drink at a bar that tipping is a cost of doing so, and I'm personally fine with that.
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E46325i up there made the claim that these people don't expect tips.
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I'm saying the don't expect it because they know people like you are everywhere and wont tip I'm not saying that don't expect to get tips period the job is based on tips but a lot of people don't
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Its more I hope I Get tipped than I expect you to tip
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So they're taking less than minimum wage jobs on the hope that they get tipped and make a living wage? No, I don't buy that. They take these jobs expecting customers to subsidize their income.
I'll tip for great service, but I don't feel bad in the least about not tipping when somebody just does their job.
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If I have pizza delivered its usually over $20 (family). If I was at a restaurant that would be about a $4 tip. I tip pizza guys better bc they are bringing all the way to my house not from the kitchen 15ft to my table...
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Well you shoulda said that before
lol I don't think anyone tips if they get crappy service(you'd think I'd have better things to do at work then discuss tips on the e46 forum lmao)Sent from my VM670 using Bimmer App
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So you don't like controlling the payment? You'd rather have mediocre service because he gets paid the same either way? Personally, I like to control what the server gets, and reward appropriately. Give me awesome service = you deserve to make more than the dork who didn't work as hard. As you said so plainly, "Either way my cost goes up", and I'd like the person to earn it.
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Well if we get into individual servers/delivery people I'm not gonna tip someone that sucks at there job and still expects but if your friendly and helpful then yea but if you leave me with an empty drink for thirty mins and are no were to be found then no
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elitist point of view, not capitalistic view. You sir seem confused since your job is better and you follow the job description all the time you do no more, no less. This really isnt about the tips its about the choice of unearned vs earned wage. Do you believe you should be paid less if you do less work? Do you think you should get a bonus during the holidays? (you would like one but are you entitled?)
Since you are superior you got two cars parked on your driveway, your brandnew mustang 5.0 cali edition sparkling and the bmw gleaming next to it. You order a pizza 4am biggest one they got. Within 15-30mins you get this massive sized pizza which two ppl had to deliver it to your door. DO YOU TIP? LETS say pizza was 24something. DO YOU TIP ?
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wow this thread turned into something. I gave the guy a $1.50 tip on a $9 order and he did not look happy. Dominos btw
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Um, yes, I certainly believe that if a person does less work, they should be paid less. Do you think otherwise? I've never gotten a holiday bonus, but I've been paid overtime for working on holidays. I do the job that I get paid for, and get paid for the work I do. Somehow that's a bad thing to expect from other people? All the pizza places around me are close at 4 am, and having a regular day job with a schedule, I'm sleeping at that time. But on the off chance that there were a delivery place open at 4am, and on the off chance that I've for some reason ordered a pizza that requires two people to deliver at 4am, that arrives at my house somewhere between 15 and 30 minutes after I've ordered it, I may tip, based on the overall level of satisfaction. But am I automatically going to throw them money for doing their jobs? Nope.
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