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Old 10-05-2012, 10:13 AM   #61
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Hmm you might have a issue. Probably not but I really don't know. I've ridden 50cc dirt bikes and I'm not sure if they'd pull that weight up that hill.
Look more into that
And before you ask, yes a 250 would fly up that hill and still be way better than that moped haha
haha yea i'm sure a 250 would make it I'll have to try renting one like you said.
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OP is an idiot - you want to spend more money to save money?
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Old 10-05-2012, 11:06 AM   #63
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OP is an idiot - you want to spend more money to save money?
Idiot is idiot - lol - The amount he'll save on his gas budget will pay for the scooter in time.

This'll be the only time I get close to sticking up for DomG lol
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Old 10-05-2012, 11:27 AM   #64
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Oh, okay. I have sigs turned off. I'm on my iPhone now but I'll look when I get back to my computer.
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Old 10-05-2012, 11:58 AM   #65
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114 mpg dude

I'm going to search for older models though and see how much cheaper they are than the 2011/2012
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Old 10-05-2012, 11:59 AM   #66
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Idiot is idiot - lol - The amount he'll save on his gas budget will pay for the scooter in time.

This'll be the only time I get close to sticking up for DomG lol
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Old 10-05-2012, 11:59 AM   #67
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Idiot is idiot - lol - The amount he'll save on his gas budget will pay for the scooter in time.

This'll be the only time I get close to sticking up for DomG lol
How do you figure? $1500-2500 for the bike, plus $300 for the training classes, $75 for insurance (for the year) plus the cost of fuel(It uses gas too), at what point do you think he'll break even? Not to mention, he'll still use his car when the weather doesn't permit using a bike.

He's an idiot.
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I'm going to search for older models though and see how much cheaper they are than the 2011/2012
250cc bikes aren't getting 114mpg, it's more like 65.
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How do you figure? $1500-2500 for the bike, plus $300 for the training classes, $75 for insurance (for the year) plus the cost of fuel(It uses gas too), at what point do you think he'll break even? Not to mention, he'll still use his car when the weather doesn't permit using a bike.

He's an idiot.
First off I'm in DC at college during the winter so I don't need the car. Only time i'd use the car is when I have to drive multiple people. I would use the ruckus literally every day to drive to work. at 114 mpg I'm pretty sure i'll be saving money, especially since the gas prices are going up and up.

I'm not planning on buying this scooter and having it for a year. I plan on buying it and using it for a long time. It'll always be useful as long as I don't mind driving it when i'm older.

Plus I might be wrong, but the less I drive my bmw the less likely things are going to break on it. So that'll save me money.

I could even bring it to college with me and drive it around here and not have to pay for a parking permit that a car would need
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250cc bikes aren't getting 114mpg, it's more like 65.
It's a 49cc scooter lmao
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How do you figure? $1500-2500 for the bike, plus $300 for the training classes, $75 for insurance (for the year) plus the cost of fuel(It uses gas too), at what point do you think he'll break even? Not to mention, he'll still use his car when the weather doesn't permit using a bike.

He's an idiot.
Who pays 300$ for a training class on a scooter?

He saves 12.5cents per mile, figured 25mpg on the car, 115 on the scooter(no idea), 4$ gas.

At 2,000$ initial cost of scooter, it would take around 16,666 miles to make that up.

(is my math right? )
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My numbers were purely based on gas savings...i'd figure you save closer to 8-10 cents with maitenance and such...but then again those numbers would decrease significantly on the BMW, so it might boost your actual savings per mile above just the gas cost.
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My numbers were purely based on gas savings...i'd figure you save closer to 8-10 cents with maitenance and such...but then again those numbers would decrease significantly on the BMW, so it might boost your actual savings per mile above just the gas cost.
Yea, I'm pretty sure i'd save money over time. It's not that i'm too broke to afford gas for my car, it's that I like the ruckus and since it has that great of gas mileage then i'm really considering it.

Plus is about time that I start getting a good credit.
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:27 PM   #76
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Who pays 300$ for a training class on a scooter?

He saves 12.5cents per mile, figured 25mpg on the car, 115 on the scooter(no idea), 4$ gas.

At 2,000$ initial cost of scooter, it would take around 16,666 miles to make that up.

(is my math right? )
16000miles to make up that cost?

Case closed.
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:29 PM   #77
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Yea, I'm pretty sure i'd save money over time. It's not that i'm too broke to afford gas for my car, it's that I like the ruckus and since it has that great of gas mileage then i'm really considering it.

Plus is about time that I start getting a good credit.
I'd say 3 years is the break-even point, then its just free money from then on.

Its a good idea, I certainly should do something similiar, but i'd go with a VW Rabbit diesel or something, much longer break-even time, but less miserable to drive I think.
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scooter training class

its basically a bicycle.
Not a scooter training class, it's a required class (in most states) to get a motorcycle license or endorsement. Not required for scooters, but it could offer a discount on insurance.

No matter how you slice it, OP has a history of poor choices, and spending more money to save money (not factoring in local fees required to register the scooter and maintain it as well) it would take a while to break even.

E46fanatics is a lot of things; a great place for financial advice isn't one of them.
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:32 PM   #79
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I'd say 3 years is the break-even point, then its just free money from then on.

Its a good idea, I certainly should do something similiar, but i'd go with a VW Rabbit diesel or something, much longer break-even time, but less miserable to drive I think.
...I give up.
Just as big of an idiot as he is.
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16000miles to make up that cost?

Case closed.
Gas price affects it significantly, 5$ gas would be 12k miles, and 8$ gas would be 7900 miles.
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