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The BMW E46 ///M3 is the M version E46 and puts out an amazing 333 HP and 262 lb-ft of torque at stock specs! There are an amazing amount of modifications for both the coupe and convertible models so read up and get started modifying your cars today!

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Old 10-09-2012, 11:43 AM   #21
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BMW has gone to electric assist for its power steering (as has Porsche), which seems to reduce feedback by a substantial amount. The numbering system started going haywire with the e27 generation, when the later 320i cars came with a reduced capacity 1.8 litre engine. This continued with the e36 generation, when the 323i actually came with a 2.5 litre engine, as opposed to the 2.3 capacity one would suspect. The same was true for the e46 323i.
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Old 10-09-2012, 05:05 PM   #22
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As far as an electrically powered steering pump goes, I THINK think this is done to help "eek out" a bit more engine fuel efficiency and reduce emissions. With California and Euro emissions requirements ever tightening (meaning becoming more stringent), manufacturers are looking to find improvements where they can. Cars now have cylinder deactivation, which isn't exactly a new idea but it's in the big Audi sedans and the Bentley V8, and cars are shutting off at stop lights to reduce emissions. Not all new things are bad; personally, I'd rather have cleaner air to breathe. Back to the Harris video on the M, I agree!
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Old 10-09-2012, 05:16 PM   #23
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BMW could make substantially more gains in fuel efficiency if it would pare the mass down by a couple of hundred kilos than by adding electric assist. While mandated safety equipment has added mass to cars, there is no reason that a 3 series BMW should be larger than a third generation 5-series and weigh 3,500 lbs. To me there is no good reason to sacrifice driver involvement and tactile feedback for the sake of a gain of a few tenths of an mpg. Want to go green? Drive less or buy a Prius.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:42 PM   #24
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So back to the topic, Chris Harris is a smart, entertaining writer who I know from my Porsche days. He is a pretty regular contributor to Excellence magazine and a follow 993 lover = OK by me!
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:55 PM   #25
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I knew I had great taste in cars, now an expert confirmed it. Wish it was not raining so I was in my M3 today instead of my Old SUV/Beater.
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Old 10-15-2012, 10:41 AM   #26
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It is sad to see great marques like BMW spiraling into the eddies of mediocrity, but the combination of mass marketing and government regulation has resulted in the production of technically competent but dull vehicles. The latest issue of Car and Driver has a comparison test between the new BMW 328i and the Cadillac ATS. While the BMW won the points contest, the drivers universally complained about its lack of steering feedback and its lack of the fun factor. Dead steering in a BMW? Who would have thought we would ever come to this? I guess it is less of a surprise, considering that the new 2013 Porsches are being criticized for the same thing, and it all ties into their insane switch to electronic assist for the power steering. As cars get bigger (marketing), more bloated (thanks to EU pedestrian safety standards), and more computer-assisted (thanks to the insurance lobby and CAFE), the joys of driving may not survive for another generation. Cars are predominantly mass marketed to a non-car-enthusiast public composed of people who don't really want to drive, who can't manage a real manual gearbox, and who have never driven a car without power-assisted steering and brakes. The go-carts and mini-bikes that many of us grew up with have been replaced by computer monitors and keypads. Go-carts had real steering feel, while computer controls don't.
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dont buy an e46 with the 19's its a bit of BLING lol

great vid except for the e30 being overrated. gtfo hahaha



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Don't forget the weight disparity of having power seats and manual seats. And have you used manual seats before? It's way quicker to adjust than powered seats.

Also listen to about 8:50 on the video and what Mr Harris has to say about cars that have lesser technology in them.
Manual seats are 2 lbs per seat lighter than power.

You never have to wait on power seats because seat memory means they're always in your position.

Manual seats don't hold you in place well because they don't have adjustable side bolstering and cause back pain because they don't have lumbar support.

My first e46 M3 had manual seats because I was thinking like you were. Never again. They're far, far worse.

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Just watched this again..great vid. He's damn right about how good it looks too. Great car!!!
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