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Old 10-09-2012, 11:53 AM   #21
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well, yes I saw that thread. And ofcourse he's got the right to believe in anything he wants.

But when it comes to healthy eating and diet and stuff hes strumming some right notes. I just want to know as a person who is in tune with diet and eating like he seems to be, does he believe in this alkaline water which is pushed as miraculous /more healthy aternative?

from reading it seems


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1. You cannot alkalize water. This is chemically impossible. Unless my college chemistry fails me H20 is a balanced molecule. An acid is a proton donor( H+) a base is a proton accepter(or a hydroxide ion OH-). Water is already balanced therefore no net affect on ph should occur.

2. Even if you were able to alkalize water, it would take an enourmous amount of slightly alkaline water (they claim a ph of 9) to dilute out the acidity of a healthly human stomach.

3. Even if I was wrong on 1 and 2 above, and you were able to alkalize water, and you were able to akalize your stomach thus alkalizing your body.........the result would be death.
The human body exists in a very small ph range(7.4) and a variance outside of this could lead to very serious consequences including death
any real science behind the quote above?
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^Some science is correct.

Alkaline means anything with an hydroxide anion (OH-) attached to it, which makes things basic. So alkaline=basic. Elements in groups 1A and 2A in the periodic table react with water and make themselves alkaline (basic). That is why they are called "alkali metals" and "alkaline earth metals" respectively.

For example, Na + H2O -> NaOH + H2 (not balanced, but balanced equation would read 2Na + 2H2O -> 2NaOH + H2). So sodium hydroxide (NaOH) that is formed will be basic (pH>7).

Now let's talk about making alkaline water. That would mean a chemical reaction of the type: H2O + OH- -> ???? Yeah this reaction is not allowed by itself. However, this is valid for "distilled water" only (nothing but H2O). When you pick up a water bottle from a vending machine or just from tap, it will contain all kinds of other minerals and elements in it. This information is not printed in the nutrition facts labels in the USA, but check the following brand of water (sold in Turkey):



As you can see, there are other elements, e.g. Sodium (Na). So by controlling the amount of Na in water, you can make the water as basic as you want. As far as I am concerned, I don't like to taste as pH goes well over 7, I like my water somewhere around pH 6-7. I have had waters in the past with a pH as high as 8.5... Yuck!!!

As for the health benefits of "basic" water, I don't know. Soaps and detergensts are basic, and they are known to have disinfectant properties (ph 7-10). Maybe water having a little of alkaline properties is also good for detoxification.
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Old 10-09-2012, 12:35 PM   #23
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thansk for the input seanC,

full disclosure:

this krazy friend of mine is my wife.

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thansk for the input seanC,

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this krazy friend of mine is my wife.

In that case, drop the subject and forget about it.
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thansk for the input seanC,

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It's probably some of that Kangen water scam. It's a MLM scheme that touts 8.5PH being good for you.
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ive tried it before....it does taste better then tap water...but thats about it

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It's probably some of that Kangen water scam. It's a MLM scheme that touts 8.5PH being good for you.

it may be, I kept asking who refered her to this crap and she would not give me the source of the pamplet as I was going to blow up and tell them to keep their miracle water to themselves.

It could be my old senile neighbor.
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This is what he she totally talks like.

Which is perfectly fine. I do get the whole paleo thing and understand that most average diets are terrible.

But do you believe in this alkaline water too?
I do not know anything about this alkaline water you speak of, have not heard of it. I do, however, add a teaspoon of baking soda to a glass of water once or twice a day. I use Bob's Red Mill baking soda (aluminum free). I also very much eat off of the right side of your chart primarily

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This is what he she totally talks like.

Which is perfectly fine. I do get the whole paleo thing and understand that most average diets are terrible.

But do you believe in this alkaline water too?
I dont know about the alkaline water, but after doing a bit of research on this, I started buying higher PH water- Fiji, Crystal Geyser, some water from New Zealand.

In DC you shouldnt drink the tap water anyway, so while buying water I figure I might as well buy the higher PH.

Does it work? Dont know. I figure it offsets some of the more unhealthiness of my life to help balance things out
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Add baking soda to the water. Then stop buying expensive water. You're body will feel better if you eat more things that end up alkaline.
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If I eat nothing but the stuff in the 5 pH section but chew Tums all day like they are candy, will that push me over into the healthy category?
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My in-laws swear by it. I personally don't like how it taste. We gave some water to bathe a friend's baby who has eczema and it helped a lot. They called it the miracle water. I personally think its all bs. They want me to install one at our house and I had to tell them no several times.
Adding a capful or two of bleach to a baby's bath water will clear up skin infections.
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Adding a capful or two of bleach to a baby's bath water will clear up skin infections.
I read that as "cupful or two" for a second there. :o
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I read that as "cupful or two" for a second there. :o
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Almost got caught taking this pix! I haven't seen it with my own eyes but I think she is now ingesting clay.

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I think she is eating clay as well..

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