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Old 10-14-2012, 02:38 AM   #1761
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After having the WINCE unit for over a 1/2 year here are some things that I have noticed:

The rubber coating on the knobs began to peel off. Even when I first received the coating had small imperfections on the edges. Ended up just peeling it all off and its much better.

The built in mic worked great when I first got it, now its completely useless. From what Ive read theres no plug for an external mic, are there any other options to fix the built in one or tap into the internal one?

Tried 3 different antenna adapters and still cant get the radio to work. Im thinking of just adding an entire antenna to the unit, does anyone have suggestions on this?

The most annoying trait of this unit is when you turn off the car, then turn it on again it goes to a random menu. And when I turn it on it usually goes to the radio which doesnt even work.. Has anyone figured out how to keep it saved to a certain menu?
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Old 10-16-2012, 07:33 AM   #1762
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For what I paid and got free rear-cam , free usb maps and free antenna (i got 2) lol I'm extremely Happy!!
Also headache with Android, crappy volume control and other "nice" features

Rear camera (~ 10$) can be connected to original OEM Navi too; 2Gb SDcard (~ 5$); iGo - "free" + Android phone

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Old 10-16-2012, 10:17 AM   #1763
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Also headache with Android, crappy volume control and other "nice" features

Rear camera (~ 10$) can be connected to original OEM Navi too; 2Gb SDcard (~ 5$); iGo - "free" + Android phone
I have the WinCe version . Everyone knows the Android is full of glitches .so still win
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:02 AM   #1764
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I have the WinCe version . Everyone knows the Android is full of glitches .so still win
No glitches on wince version?

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Old 10-16-2012, 11:27 AM   #1765
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No glitches on wince version?
No glitches as far as the wince part freezing.. the wince unit does not freeze and everything works, except for the known random boots
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:34 AM   #1766
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No glitches as far as the wince part freezing.. the wince unit does not freeze and everything works, except for the known random boots
The random boots is not a big deal overall , just change the mode and that it
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Old 10-16-2012, 02:14 PM   #1767
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Hey guys if you have wince, do locs have to be installed too? Is the loc a 2 channel or 4 channel? Sorry i am new to this.
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Old 10-18-2012, 04:01 AM   #1768
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Anyone in SGV has this? May I please take a look?
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Old 10-21-2012, 10:39 PM   #1769
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android VS wince

I'm looking for a hu for my 2002 330ci e46, dynavin's is a great product but the price is too expensive, this unit looks like a dynavin but definitely it's a clone, since android is a new product compared to wince, there must be much more issues for android in a clone unit, so i'd prefer the one with wince, anyone tried this unit?http://www.cars-electronics.com/doub...-fm_p1272.html would appreciate for your feedback.
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Old 10-21-2012, 11:34 PM   #1770
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My experience is that these clones are poor designed products, half cooked. Can't use bluetooth phone and GPS at the same time. the ipod interface is very poor. Volume control is another issue since each app has its own control. Glare is an issue. PiP banner is always displayed even if you don't want it. So don't expect a well designed, feature reach, supported product. As I said, it kind of works... half cooked...If I would've known all the issues, I wouldn't have bought it.

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Old 10-21-2012, 11:41 PM   #1771
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I'm looking for a hu for my 2002 330ci e46, dynavin's is a great product but the price is too expensive, this unit looks like a dynavin but definitely it's a clone, since android is a new product compared to wince, there must be much more issues for android in a clone unit, so i'd prefer the one with wince, anyone tried this unit?http://www.cars-electronics.com/doub...-fm_p1272.html would appreciate for your feedback.
Hey dude...read the entire thread regarding these units.
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Old 10-22-2012, 01:36 AM   #1772
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I'm looking for a hu for my 2002 330ci e46, dynavin's is a great product but the price is too expensive, this unit looks like a dynavin but definitely it's a clone, since android is a new product compared to wince, there must be much more issues for android in a clone unit, so i'd prefer the one with wince, anyone tried this unit?http://www.cars-electronics.com/doub...-fm_p1272.html would appreciate for your feedback.
I suggest you to take a look on branded 2DIN head units. Anyway video of this unit shows that shell of this unit response faster and stable. Maybe it worth to try

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Old 10-23-2012, 08:55 PM   #1773
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Guys what LOC are you using a 2 channel or 4 channel, any recommendations?
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Old 10-24-2012, 03:15 AM   #1774
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Has someone noticed that in Skype signature for Jolly is written,that the new units have Android 4.0 version on ?????
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:34 AM   #1775
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Has someone noticed that in Skype signature for Jolly is written,that the new units have Android 4.0 version on ?????
Have you solved issue with Android reboots? Does Jolly support you?

My opinion that it's not a big deal Android 2.3 or 4.0. The most important thing is that Android must work and not only for youtube and www.

I don't believe that they can deploy product with Android 4.0 which will work better than current version. For normal operation Android 4.0 requires minimum 512Mb RAM, 1Ghz CPU and a recent GPU, otherwise it will work as current ENCO B046 (damn slow and with lags)
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Old 10-24-2012, 08:16 AM   #1776
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Have you solved issue with Android reboots? Does Jolly support you?

My opinion that it's not a big deal Android 2.3 or 4.0. The most important thing is that Android must work and not only for youtube and www.

I don't believe that they can deploy product with Android 4.0 which will work better than current version. For normal operation Android 4.0 requires minimum 512Mb RAM, 1Ghz CPU and a recent GPU, otherwise it will work as current ENCO B046 (damn slow and with lags)
4.0 is a huge difference over 2.3. Major refinements, everything runs smoother, etc. 4.1 is even better.

Also, those specs are total bullsh1t. I had a first gen Galaxy S and it ran considerably better with 4.0 than 2.2/2.3 and has quite a bit lower specs. (256mb RAM, ~800Mhz proc, slow as **** GPU)

Unlike Apple crap, every new major Android release has run faster than the previous version on old hardware. If these are actually running 4.0, it gives them a HUGE advantage over the Android 2.2 Dynavin crap. Bring it up to 4.1 and the Dynavin isn't even worth considering anymore.
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Old 10-24-2012, 10:06 PM   #1777
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4.0 is a huge difference over 2.3. Major refinements, everything runs smoother, etc. 4.1 is even better.

Also, those specs are total bullsh1t. I had a first gen Galaxy S and it ran considerably better with 4.0 than 2.2/2.3 and has quite a bit lower specs. (256mb RAM, ~800Mhz proc, slow as **** GPU)

Unlike Apple crap, every new major Android release has run faster than the previous version on old hardware. If these are actually running 4.0, it gives them a HUGE advantage over the Android 2.2 Dynavin crap. Bring it up to 4.1 and the Dynavin isn't even worth considering anymore.
This^ but if the enco units keep freezing up with the android software then we're back where we started

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Old 10-25-2012, 03:19 AM   #1778
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4.0 is a huge difference over 2.3. Major refinements, everything runs smoother, etc. 4.1 is even better.

Also, those specs are total bullsh1t. I had a first gen Galaxy S and it ran considerably better with 4.0 than 2.2/2.3 and has quite a bit lower specs. (256mb RAM, ~800Mhz proc, slow as **** GPU)

Unlike Apple crap, every new major Android release has run faster than the previous version on old hardware. If these are actually running 4.0, it gives them a HUGE advantage over the Android 2.2 Dynavin crap. Bring it up to 4.1 and the Dynavin isn't even worth considering anymore.
I didn't say that there is no difference between Android versions. It's to optimistic to believe that szenco will post firmware with android 4 or bug fixes for current B046 unit. What should I do with my crappy android 2.3 in that case?!
You are comparing Samsung hardware which was developed by the bunch of engineers with the Szenco engineers, which manufacture low quality devices (as 90% of noname chinese manufactures do).

OK, i'm too pessimistic

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Old 10-25-2012, 08:52 AM   #1779
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You are comparing Samsung hardware which was developed by the bunch of engineers with the Szenco engineers, which manufacture low quality devices (as 90% of noname chinese manufactures do).

OK, i'm too pessimistic

It still likely uses a SoC from a major manufacturer since these noname chinese manufactures would never have the resources to design their own SoC. The Dynavin uses a TI OMAP SoC, for example. The crappy Android build it is running could probably be fixed by building an AOSP ROM for it, but I'm betting it's in the same place as the Dynavin, having no touchscreen drivers available to us so we wouldn't be able to build a fully functional kernel.
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Old 10-25-2012, 06:07 PM   #1780
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I didn't say that there is no difference between Android versions. It's to optimistic to believe that szenco will post firmware with android 4 or bug fixes for current B046 unit. What should I do with my crappy android 2.3 in that case?!
You are comparing Samsung hardware which was developed by the bunch of engineers with the Szenco engineers, which manufacture low quality devices (as 90% of noname chinese manufactures do).

OK, i'm too pessimistic
The problem with the b046 and b146 is not the unit itself , As some of the internal components are quiet good. The Main Issue is the low budget internal software they use.

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It still likely uses a SoC from a major manufacturer since these noname chinese manufactures would never have the resources to design their own SoC. The Dynavin uses a TI OMAP SoC, for example. The crappy Android build it is running could probably be fixed by building an AOSP ROM for it, but I'm betting it's in the same place as the Dynavin, having no touchscreen drivers available to us so we wouldn't be able to build a fully functional kernel.
You are Correct about this...
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