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Old 10-26-2012, 05:06 PM   #1021
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As I've progressed, I notice that weights that felt very heavy before (say a 135lb bar) feel feather light and I have no problem lifting them around.

Do you still experience the same thing at a 375lb squat with say a 225 lb bar? Or is it still "heavy", but easily doable?

As you move up in weight, what was once heavy feels much lighter (..ex...225 lb. deadlift used to feel heavy; now it feels light now that I've packed on another 125 lbs.). 225 lbs. is the normal weight that I use for reps when squatting, benching or dead lifting. It's a weight that doesn't feel heavy to me, so I can rep the crap out of it. I use it more as a post-warm up/cool down weight, and it's the only weight that I use for the 10-12 rep range. Everything else is either 5, 6 or 8 because the weight is significantly heavier.

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Old 10-26-2012, 05:13 PM   #1022
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As long as you're training all your muscles, heavier weight gets lighter in general...a 225 lb bar doesn't feel as heavy when doing cleans after youve worked your way up with that weight on front squat.

Make sense? Probably not lol
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Old 10-26-2012, 05:20 PM   #1023
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As long as you're training all your muscles, heavier weight gets lighter in general...a 225 lb bar doesn't feel as heavy when doing cleans after youve worked your way up with that weight on front squat.

Make sense? Probably not lol

Speaking of the FS, I'm going for 225 lbs. early next week.
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Old 10-26-2012, 05:27 PM   #1024
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Its interesting to think about, I just thought that eventually your support muscles (stabilizers, forearms, etc) will be unable to grow big enough to make the weight seem "light" again.

Like for a massive bodybuilder deadlifting 605 normally, I would assume that a 505 would still feel really heavy despite his ability to deadlift it for more reps... maybe im wrong!
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Old 10-26-2012, 07:46 PM   #1025
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Its interesting to think about, I just thought that eventually your support muscles (stabilizers, forearms, etc) will be unable to grow big enough to make the weight seem "light" again.

Like for a massive bodybuilder deadlifting 605 normally, I would assume that a 505 would still feel really heavy despite his ability to deadlift it for more reps... maybe im wrong!
I think that's where having a longer history of training comes into play. A guy I know that has been lifting heavy for 15 years squats 405 every. Single. Day. No warmup some days. Does it cold. He's so strong that it's automatic.... And he weighs 165lbs....

He has squatted 615 or so though, so he says it feels really light.

I've noticed that weights that used to feel unmanageable feel light now. I remember the first time I ever dead lifted 315. Now it feels like a warmup and I would feel comfortable doing it cold.

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Old 10-26-2012, 08:40 PM   #1026
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I think that's where having a longer history of training comes into play. A guy I know that has been lifting heavy for 15 years squats 405 every. Single. Day. No warmup some days. Does it cold. He's so strong that it's automatic.... And he weighs 165lbs....

He has squatted 615 or so though, so he says it feels really light.

I've noticed that weights that used to feel unmanageable feel light now. I remember the first time I ever dead lifted 315. Now it feels like a warmup and I would feel comfortable doing it cold.

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I agree 100%. Today I watched a guy - who actually looked pretty good from the waist up - struggle with a 135 lb. military press (..a weight that I don't even bother warming up with because it feels like a 45 lb. bar).
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Old 10-27-2012, 08:36 AM   #1027
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I agree 100%. Today I watched a guy - who actually looked pretty good from the waist up - struggle with a 135 lb. military press (..a weight that I don't even bother warming up with because it feels like a 45 lb. bar).
Thanks for making me feel like a loser hahah. What are you pressing?
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Old 10-27-2012, 11:21 AM   #1028
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Thanks for making me feel like a loser hahah. What are you pressing?
LOL...that wasn't my intention. I was surprised because the guy "looked the part" up top, so it just shocked me that 135 lbs. was so hard for him. He mustered 2 reps and almost dropped the bar.

Ehhh....I don't know what my max is, but right now I just press 200 lbs. (4 x 10 reps) on my back squat days. I also do some other anterior/posterior delt work. I'm going to start moving up in weight by 10 lbs. a week beginning next week. I'm shooting to hit 225 lbs. in a few weeks. I want to do a 225 lbs. max rep day with the dead lift, squat, bench and shoulder.

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Old 10-27-2012, 06:45 PM   #1029
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is that a strict shoulder press @200? thats beast. i can push press/jerk 235. but strict maybe 135. haha
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Old 10-27-2012, 09:16 PM   #1031
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is that a strict shoulder press @200? thats beast. i can push press/jerk 235. but strict maybe 135. haha
Yep! Assuming that by strict you mean seated on a free weight/barbell military press station. I am scared to jerk weight. LOL! I have never tried any of the jerk movements. I have never even tried a push press.

I would think that your military press would be much stronger than mine considering that you're an overall stronger person than I am.

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Old 10-27-2012, 09:21 PM   #1032
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I was up to strict 245 at one point. Miserable.
If I can be at 245 lbs. on the military press by the end of December I'll be one happy dude.
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is that a strict shoulder press @200? thats beast. i can push press/jerk 235. but strict maybe 135. haha
Yah that is beast, Im sure dude weighs quite a bit.
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Yah that is beast, Im sure dude weighs quite a bit.
I'm only 186 lbs.!!! BreakMyWallet, Dwass325, Glight and a few others are bigger than I am. I'm the smallest of the big guys on the forum.

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I'm only 186 lbs.!!! BreakMyWallet, Dwass325, Glight and a few others are bigger than I am. I'm the smallest of the big guys on the forum.
Damn you the man

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You must not see some of the videos that my fellow lifters post. I am not on their level. LOL!
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You must not see some of the videos that my fellow lifters post. I am not on their level. LOL!
No I havent, Im not on this thread allot, every now and than, anyways good job to all keep up the good work.
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ah. i was thinking of a standing press. i havent done the sitting one in a couple years. but i have wear shoulders. being a baseball player means they hurt everyday and i think something is torn in both. haha. but i had surgery on my throwing on in 2009 too so its been weaksince
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ah. i was thinking of a standing press. i havent done the sitting one in a couple years. but i have wear shoulders. being a baseball player means they hurt everyday and i think something is torn in both. haha. but i had surgery on my throwing on in 2009 too so its been weaksince
My right knee has been bothering me ever since I injured it training with a partner of mine. It takes a long time to warm it up, and I avoid squatting any higher than 315 on a regular basis (..the exception being the rare 3RM day). I think it's a patella injury.


....and I have fickle rotator cuffs as well. FML!
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