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Old 11-05-2012, 11:38 PM   #401
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My original fuel pump is still going strong...
Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!

You're the tenth one with a working original pump to report this week. You must have known that this board pays a $1000 door prize for your feat!
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Old 11-06-2012, 04:52 AM   #402
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My original fuel pump is still going strong...
Just a matter of time my friend!

We will be waiting to hear your story how you were not inconvenienced in any way, that the pump quit in your driveway when you were planning on being out of town anyway so you ordered a new on on line, went out of town, then when you came back late the next Friday your new pump was waiting at the house for you to install over your leisure time during the weekend. It also only took you 10 minutes to change as you had all the tools next to the garage door and you had read out changing the pump so many times.
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Old 11-06-2012, 09:23 PM   #403
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Well guys you were spot on. I ordered the pump and filter from oembimmerparts on Monday, they arrived this afternoon and I was able to install the new pump tonight and the issue seems to be solved. The car is still going to the mechanic tomorrow to have the filter done and possibly change the transmission fluid as well. Thanks again for the quick responses and helpful pointers to the right info.
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Old 11-06-2012, 09:25 PM   #404
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My original just went out at 198,xxx miles... Not bad i'd say.
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Old 11-06-2012, 09:42 PM   #405
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Not bad?

Excellent longevity!

Changed it out on 81 St yourself?
What did you pay for a new pump?
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:50 PM   #406
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Not bad?

Excellent longevity!

Changed it out on 81 St yourself?
What did you pay for a new pump?
150 + 20 for the seal. Oem

No... That is Jerry Seinfeld's address. Lol

Btw- the key to the longevity is not running the car when the fuel warning light is on.
Many people nickel & dime their gas... Fill It up, and try to never go below 1/4 tank.
Keep that pump submerged.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:25 PM   #407
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My pump just died at 155k miles. I just replaced it but used a screw clamp instead of a crimp clamp. Is that ok? Thanks.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:30 PM   #408
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Standard screw hose clamp will work in place of a crimp clamp. Crimp clamps are used during manufacturing as they are far cheaper than a worm drive clamp. Same with spring clamps.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:33 PM   #409
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Thanks so much!!!

This is my first DIY so I'm ecstatic my car works again.

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Standard screw hose clamp will work in place of a crimp clamp. Crimp clamps are used during manufacturing as they are far cheaper than a worm drive clamp. Same with spring clamps.

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Old 11-07-2012, 09:46 PM   #410
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Make sure you pay SPECIAL attention to the info on the fuel pump gasket installation. The gasket installation is the trickiest part of the entire job.
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:32 PM   #411
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My pump just died at 155k miles. I just replaced it but used a screw clamp instead of a crimp clamp. Is that ok? Thanks.
As long as it is OEM with a BMW logo on it, you are fine.
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:51 AM   #412
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Is it recommended to replace the fuel pump relay as well?
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:08 AM   #413
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Its not a bad idea the $10 or so that you would spend on a replacement relay.

Some people claim they never fail, but they do. What you have to realize is the fuel pump relay engages everytime the ignition key is turned on and is held in the closed position the ENTIRE time the engine is running.

So after 10 year, its anyone's guess is to how many cycles the relay has completed and how many hours it has been engaged.

The issue is yes you can swap the fuel pump relay with the horn relay when you are in a bind, but how many people remember where the relay is located, have the tools to remove the glove box and have a spare 20 minutes to swap the relay in the "hope" that the relay is the problem and not the fuel pump.

So from a purely PM standpoint, I would suggest the relay swap, bag the old relay, mark it and keep it in the trunk with the spare tire in case either your new relay fails for any reason or you can lend a hand to a fellow fanatic.
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:14 AM   #414
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Its not a bad idea the $10 or so that you would spend on a replacement relay.

Some people claim they never fail, but they do. What you have to realize is the fuel pump relay engages everytime the ignition key is turned on and is held in the closed position the ENTIRE time the engine is running.

So after 10 year, its anyone's guess is to how many cycles the relay has completed and how many hours it has been engaged.

The issue is yes you can swap the fuel pump relay with the horn relay when you are in a bind, but how many people remember where the relay is located, have the tools to remove the glove box and have a spare 20 minutes to swap the relay in the "hope" that the relay is the problem and not the fuel pump.

So from a purely PM standpoint, I would suggest the relay swap, bag the old relay, mark it and keep it in the trunk with the spare tire in case either your new relay fails for any reason or you can lend a hand to a fellow fanatic.
Rockin, thanks for the quick feedback.
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Old 11-09-2012, 01:42 AM   #415
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2 pumps in 15 months

Replaced my original fuel pump and filter 15 months ago @ 72K. Had to do it again this week @85K.

Last week the car would not start for my wife after work while I was out of town. She called AAA and the driver came to check it out. He tapped the gas tank with a rubber mallet and then the car started. That trick worked a couple of more times but that was all.
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Old 11-09-2012, 05:52 AM   #416
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What type of pump was installed OEM or aftermarket?

Do you know the brand/manufacturer?

What year and model car?

That sucks as you have had 2 failures? in recent months and I assume the first pump replacement was not a PM replacement?

Also of course it happens to your wife and you are not around.

Bet the wife will be telling you that car has to go soon?
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:06 PM   #417
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Bet the wife will be telling you that car has to go soon?
The real question is what was she doing out of the kitchen.

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Old 11-09-2012, 01:28 PM   #418
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What type of pump was installed OEM or aftermarket?

Do you know the brand/manufacturer?

What year and model car?

That sucks as you have had 2 failures? in recent months and I assume the first pump replacement was not a PM replacement?

Also of course it happens to your wife and you are not around.

Bet the wife will be telling you that car has to go soon?
I don't recall the brands but both replacements were aftermarket. I'll check receipts later. Both were replace after failure. The first time was in my driveway. The second at my wifes work when I was away.

Vehicle is a 2002 325I.

We're not ready to give up on this car by any means. If it leaves her/us stranded again we may need to make a change. Since it's my DD she doesn't much care.
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Old 11-10-2012, 09:35 AM   #419
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Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!

You're the tenth one with a working original pump to report this week. You must have known that this board pays a $1000 door prize for your feat!
I was going to be the 11th, but mine died as I pulled into the driveway from being out at a concert all night in downtown Detroit where I had to take a detour to go around a murder scene.

For those of you who don't believe in Jesus, think about this.
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Old 11-10-2012, 09:44 AM   #420
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