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Old 11-08-2012, 08:42 AM   #21
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Same here. I wanted to pair this with the 6766 turbo... Now I'm going to have to get 2 separate tunes if I decide not to wait... 2014 seems so faaaaaar.
Well it's kind of Chris' fault that you're excited. He made it seem like it was going to be available sooner rather than later. I guess we're going to have to wait for later.
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:43 AM   #22
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...We finally perfected this with the HPF/AEM and were able to control multiple boost control solenoids, 4 maps, methanol, traction control, knock sirens, dual vanos, etc. etc.
Is there any way in the meantime to somehow have a wheel based traction control such as ProEFI's on the existing AEM units? (even if it includes buying and installing some additional sensors...)
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:45 AM   #23
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Is there any way in the meantime to somehow have a wheel based traction control such as ProEFI's on the existing AEM units? (even if it includes buying and installing some additional sensors...)

The only thing that I can think of is to get a Race Logic traction unit. They work great. The AEM does not have anything in the software for this so it would be a whole new firmware.
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Old 11-08-2012, 03:00 PM   #24
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nothing that the proefi and Vipec dont do and are available today.

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Well it's kind of Chris' fault that you're excited. He made it seem like it was going to be available sooner rather than later. I guess we're going to have to wait for later.
Chris is the messenger of the information that was relayed to him. It's sure nice of him to keep everyone updated.

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Old 11-08-2012, 05:33 PM   #26
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:21 PM   #27
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Does John recommend any other ways of achieving a flex fuel tune for the meantime?

John would say "Put a Motec in it"
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:52 PM   #28
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May have been Jason's ProEFI hype, but didn't think Motec was any better at dealing with fluctuating ethanol contents than the AEM
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:56 PM   #29
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motec scales e85 content like the proefi. john also fully supports the vipec which is fully supported on the e46. for 1/2 the price of motec
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Old 11-09-2012, 11:35 PM   #30
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I am pretty sure that Motec is not true ve based like proefi so it cannot do ethanol exactly like proefi.
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:55 AM   #31
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John would say "Put a Motec in it"
I do have a tendency to like to do things right, the first time.

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May have been Jason's ProEFI hype, but didn't think Motec was any better at dealing with fluctuating ethanol contents than the AEM
The MoTeC can fully do flex fuel, and to my knowledge was one of the first ECUs to do it. I was doing flex fuel on the MoTeC back when Jason was still working for AEM. ProEFI did drive the popularity of the feature though, to the point now it is a major shopping point for the average ECU consumer.

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motec scales e85 content like the proefi. john also fully supports the vipec which is fully supported on the e46. for 1/2 the price of motec
ViPEC V88 does flex fuel very well, but no speed based traction control (yet).

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I am pretty sure that Motec is not true ve based like proefi so it cannot do ethanol exactly like proefi.
If you mean it doesn't handle it in the software like the ProEFI then your statement is correct. They are two different ECUs and the end fueling calculations are handled differently. However if you mean the MoTeC cannot fully compensate for the changing ethanol content and adjust fuel, timing, boost, start enrichment, accel fuel and a myriad of other things then your statement is a bit misleading.
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Old 11-11-2012, 02:51 PM   #32
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If you mean it doesn't handle it in the software like the ProEFI then your statement is correct. They are two different ECUs and the end fueling calculations are handled differently.

Yes, that is all that I meant. I know that there is not much that you cannot do with Motec, just that it does things a bit differently than ProEFI with their fuel strategies.
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The ProEFI works perfect with the E46, I worked with a friend to develop a flash to make the stock ECU happy when running with a stand alone. While Motec CAN do flexfuel its no where near as straight forward as how ProEFI does it. The way fueling is calculated is WAY different. While Motec is a proven solution, it is definitely several steps behind strategy wise compared to ProEFI. ProEFI still provides the most stable fueling and ignition control over any system I've used, and over the widest range of conditions.
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Well it's kind of Chris' fault that you're excited. He made it seem like it was going to be available sooner rather than later. I guess we're going to have to wait for later.
In hind sight this is somewhat true. AEM has been in the development stages of the Infinity box for the Supra for awhile now because they want to make sure it's perfect before they release it. We were hoping for a release date to come sooner on the Supra box so they could start on the E46 M3 application and I had been pushing AEM for this. So it's not really their fault they want to come out with a more reliable product and that takes time as we all know. There is a fierce demand for a more usable VE based engine management system and I do like what I've seen so far. Now we just get to sit back and wait.

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Well upcoming m1 from motec seems promising

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Old 11-15-2012, 08:16 AM   #36
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Have you been working with the config files? If so...who gave them to you?Motec has them locked down...
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:37 PM   #37
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Have you been working with the config files? If so...who gave them to you?Motec has them locked down...
Whats the base on the Motec M161/M131/etc.. I imagine all the options are a la carte as well. Such as DBW, wheel speed traction control, etc..
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