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Old 11-10-2012, 09:43 PM   #41
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Old 11-10-2012, 09:52 PM   #42
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Its ok, I admit my defeat. It was my mistake not to quote the statement on that particular post and made you to assume I am incomprehensible. You win.

No sense in arguing when there is nothing to prove.

You want to put a supra engine in an e46, I want to have a supra and an e46 as two different cars. Got the point? My point is, the cars come out of the factory with a particular service purpose to general public, why change it? Your point is why not have best of both worlds in a single car.
You'd put a lot of hours and research in doing the swap, I will save the hours and spend the equivalent money.

Both are correct. I just dont agree with the later. I value time more than modding.
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Old 11-10-2012, 09:54 PM   #43
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I would probably take an older "non-exotic" (e.g. a supercharged NSX on JRZs and good rubber) over most new exotics, with the exception of cars like the Lotus Exige or Ariel Atom (if you can even count those in the exotic category)

One note; modding a car with the intention of "beating an exotic"; is just stupid. I mod cars to bring out what I like in them, not to hit a particular benchmark. I would not ever want to have a 600hp civic that can only go fast in a straight line and spins its front tires through 4th gear...
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Old 11-10-2012, 10:12 PM   #44
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If money is not a problem i'd go exotic all day (Mclaren MP4-12c), the build quality and perfection is just not on par with any other modded car. But if money is an issue my choice would be a Nissan GTR with all the bells and whistles (1000hp+).
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Old 11-10-2012, 10:22 PM   #45
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If money is not a problem i'd go exotic all day (Mclaren MP4-12c), the build quality and perfection is just not on par with any other modded car. But if money is an issue my choice would be a Nissan GTR with all the bells and whistles (1000hp+).
Just out of curiosity, what draws you to the MP4-12C?
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Old 11-10-2012, 10:41 PM   #46
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Just out of curiosity, what draws you to the MP4-12C?
What draws me towards the mclaren is the perfection, technology, craftsmanship, build quality, materials, engine (Twin Turbo V8) as well as the efficiency it offers (Not many exotics capable of doing 30 mpg). If you have a chance to see the mclaren technology center where this car as well as the F1 cars are designed and built you will have a better picture.
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Old 11-10-2012, 10:47 PM   #47
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What draws me towards the mclaren is the perfection, technology, craftsmanship, build quality, materials, engine (Twin Turbo V8) as well as the efficiency it offers (Not many exotics capable of doing 30 mpg). If you have a chance to see the mclaren technology center where this car as well as the F1 cars are designed and built you will have a better picture.
The MP4-12C was originally a Chrysler idea.

EDIT: Nvm that was the ME 412...lol

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Old 11-10-2012, 10:50 PM   #48
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When you stop caring about who is laughing at you, get back to me. That is duche bag status. Eye of the beholder man, sh!t in your eyes could be a diamond in mine. Like the girl you hold on your arm, not everyone is going to want to fvck her. You don't think millionaires spend money on 40yr old cars? Datsuns.. etc? You speak of class? You have shown none, maybe it will come with the car you buy?
You have a really weird way of coming off as a complete asshole. You are condescending. Obviously you think you're better than me for some reason. **** off. Unfortunately, you are the douche here, sorry, ****in guido.

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Old 11-10-2012, 11:20 PM   #49
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What draws me towards the mclaren is the perfection, technology, craftsmanship, build quality, materials, engine (Twin Turbo V8) as well as the efficiency it offers (Not many exotics capable of doing 30 mpg). If you have a chance to see the mclaren technology center where this car as well as the F1 cars are designed and built you will have a better picture.
I've seen the technology center and the build process before and it truly is very impressive. While I find that stuff "cool", it's not the highest on my priority list. I'm more interested in how it engages the driver than the technology behind it, which is funny since I didn't notice you mentioning "how it drove" on your list of what attracts you to it.

On another note, I know we should be trying to conserve, but to me, an exotic should be a louder than hell fire-breathing, lopey-idling, flame-spitting monster, a car that you never dare to utter the words "miles per gallon" within earshot of it.
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Old 11-10-2012, 11:31 PM   #50
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Get a professional job and show up in sweat pants. See if you're still singing the same song.

Just so you know, you're reeking of "live my life a quarter mile at a time."
What if you own the company? Can you show up naked then?
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Old 11-10-2012, 11:45 PM   #51
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I've seen the technology center and the build process before and it truly is very impressive. While I find that stuff "cool", it's not the highest on my priority list. I'm more interested in how it engages the driver than the technology behind it, which is funny since I didn't notice you mentioning "how it drove" on your list of what attracts you to it.

On another note, I know we should be trying to conserve, but to me, an exotic should be a louder than hell fire-breathing, lopey-idling, flame-spitting monster, a car that you never dare to utter the words "miles per gallon" within earshot of it.
I am aware of the fire-breathing, lopey-idling, flame-spitting monster definition of an exotic but for me it must be that and more... We are currently living on the XXI Century and a supercar for me must be an all in one package like a swiss knife perhaps. That is what I like of the mclaren, it has it all in one package (Performance, Style, Technology, Efficiency), Sure MPG is the least of the owners concern of said car but having a machine capable of being efficient and practical as well as fire-breathing, lopey-idling, flame-spitting monster is what makes it a masterpiece.

On a side note, I have not drived or rided on a MP4-12c but I have done so in 2 Ferraris (F430, 458 italia) and I must say these 2 feel very very raw in comparison to what Clarkson describes the MP4-12C to be. But on the track where it really matters the mclaren runs circles around all that rawness keeping all the beneftial aspects of practicality and efficiency.
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I am aware of the fire-breathing, lopey-idling, flame-spitting monster definition of an exotic but for me it must be that and more... We are currently living on the XXI Century and a supercar for me must be an all in one package like a swiss knife perhaps. That is what I like of the mclaren, it has it all in one package (Performance, Style, Technology, Efficiency), Sure MPG is the least of the owners concern of said car but having a machine capable of being efficient and practical as well as fire-breathing, lopey-idling, flame-spitting monster is what makes it a masterpiece.

On a side note, I have not drived or rided on a MP4-12c but I have done so in 2 Ferraris (F430, 458 italia) and I must say these 2 feel very very raw in comparison to what Clarkson describes the MP4-12C to be. But on the track where it really matters the mclaren runs circles around all that rawness keeping all the beneftial aspects of practicality and efficiency.
I was going to say I differ in my opinion of what an exotic should be, but then I realized you are right. I almost said that they should be pure performance driving machines, then I realized that is just a pure race car.
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Old 11-11-2012, 12:11 AM   #53
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I would take an e92 m3 and make it as close to the m3 gtr as i can while remaining street legal.

To me an m3 gtr or porsche cup car on the streets is cooler than any old common ferrari or lambo.
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Depending on the regional laws, possibly.
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You have a really weird way of coming off as a complete asshole. You are condescending. Obviously you think you're better than me for some reason. **** off. Unfortunately, you are the douche here, sorry, ****in guido.
Thank you for taking the time to respond. Do I know you? I think it all comes down to a lifestyle. Some people wanna go to car meets to cook food and kick it family style. Some people have no wife, no kids, zero responsibility and can show up to work in just about any form. If you have a real job and lots of responsibilities in life. You will prolly want a car that is fast out of the box, 430, One-77, SLR, maybe even a 4 door to haul those kids around in. Personally for me, I refuse to drive anything someone else built. Reason being everything breaks, and when your sh!t breaks. You are going to go look for the guy that did "something wrong" It happens all the time. I'd rather look inward and move on to the next one. Build it, don't buy it. Edit so the car comes with heated floors and a clarion head unit?? ROFL

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