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The BMW E46 ///M3 is the M version E46 and puts out an amazing 333 HP and 262 lb-ft of torque at stock specs! There are an amazing amount of modifications for both the coupe and convertible models so read up and get started modifying your cars today!

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Old 11-02-2012, 05:25 AM   #21
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Old 11-02-2012, 08:11 AM   #22
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As others have said, the dealer number is extremely high. I would do the service inspection, including the valve adjustments and oil change. Skip on the other stuff and see if it needs to be replaced. I replaced my belt when I did my water pump, which you will most likely need to do by the time you get to 100,000. That will also count as the coolant flush. You can even replace the hoses if they need it. Mine at 110k are still nice and stiff, no leaks. So replacing all of them now may be premature. If your windshield washer works, then you probably don't need a new pump. If it doesn't I'd check the fuse for it before giving away money.

It really sounds like the dealer has a bunch of extra time on their hands and rather than let the mechanics stand around they want to make money off you and rotate thier stock at the same time. There was a thing on 60 Minutes a while back where dealers were investigated by having a hidden camera/mics in the car, all of them were guilty of being able to fix the problem with an inexpensive part quickly then charging a ton more to replace other parts for no reason at all.
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Old 11-02-2012, 10:33 AM   #23
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It really sounds like the dealer has a bunch of extra time on their hands and rather than let the mechanics stand around they want to make money off you and rotate thier stock at the same time. There was a thing on 60 Minutes a while back where dealers were investigated by having a hidden camera/mics in the car, all of them were guilty of being able to fix the problem with an inexpensive part quickly then charging a ton more to replace other parts for no reason at all.
I don't think the dealer in this case is trying to rip him off, they are just following what the schedule and charging book times and typical inflated dealer parts prices.

The Volvo dealer quoted my GF ~$1000 for front/rear pads/rotors, then I showed her how much she'd save buying the parts online. The savings was ~$300 in parts alone as the dealer wanted > $500 for parts and we picked everything up for ~$250. Now multiple that by the "M3 markup" and you can see how dealers arrive at these silly quotes.

My old Mercedes dealer was really nice. The service manager would advise that certain jobs would be far cheaper to go to an independent after my eyes nearly fell out of their sockets a few times he gave me a quote for a repair. Thus I eventually stopped going to the dealer at all.
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Old 11-02-2012, 07:04 PM   #24
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1778 for inspection?!?! i did inspection II AND vanos maintenance for 1300... you got ripped big time
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Old 11-02-2012, 09:29 PM   #25
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What gold plated hoses are they replacing for 1600$?
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Old 11-11-2012, 01:15 PM   #26
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The washer fluid pump is approximately 30 dollars and takes 10 minutes to change.
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Old 11-11-2012, 01:49 PM   #27
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Old 11-11-2012, 04:17 PM   #28
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Never ever ever take your car to the stealership. They rip you off and make our cars look bad. I'm running at 106k smg without a single stop at the stealership. It's a fairly easy car to work on if you understand common sense in cars. My mom also drives an e46 with 170k miles on all oem factory hoses,belts,timing belt never been changed. Runs like a champ. Only changed coils, spark plugs, brakes and such.
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Old 11-11-2012, 04:55 PM   #29
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**All prices include tax and labor**

Tune Up/Inspection Service - 1,778 WHY??? Did you say it was already done??
Wash fluid pump - 227 Cost 30$ and takes 5 minutes to put in
Rear Brakes (Rotors) - 781 $400 all in
Rear Control Arms - 667 $100 for a set
Rear shock mounts - 460 $100
Alignment - 300 $120
Drive Belts - 276 $120
Replace all hoses - 1,598 Which hoses ???

Total Cost = 6,087

Regardless or which hoses they talking about, you must be insane if you pay more then $1500 labor included for all that.
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Old 11-11-2012, 05:17 PM   #30
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OP, I don't have the desire to do basic maintenance on my cars anymore...I used to do it all and if you have the time and basic tools/skills it's easy and can save you a ton of dough.

My 41k service at an indy shop was $4500 ish. I did the valves, fluids, CDV Valve, new sunroof felt, a rear axle seal, all filters, all fluids, Front rotors and pads (did the rears too) (ePads for the win, I love the feel just like the OEM pads I think and they don't dust bad and the dust is much lighter in color), car needed plugs early (2006 with only 25k miles bought this year), a couple other odds and ends. The Inspection costs are just the basics, all parts that need to be replaced are added on. Sadly for the M3 many of the parts get added on especially if you are driving it like an M3 should be.

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Old 11-11-2012, 06:57 PM   #31
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I am located on Long Island, in the Commack - Huntington area. I think you guys are right, I need to find a Indy Shop that I can trust, but that is the hard part
shoot me an PM these guys are just gonna flame you cause your a newb (which there is nothing wrong with everyone here was on that boat one time or another) ill point you in the right direction

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Old 11-12-2012, 12:19 AM   #32
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Never ever ever take your car to the stealership. They rip you off and make our cars look bad. I'm running at 106k smg without a single stop at the stealership. It's a fairly easy car to work on if you understand common sense in cars. My mom also drives an e46 with 170k miles on all oem factory hoses,belts,timing belt never been changed. Runs like a champ. Only changed coils, spark plugs, brakes and such.
Let us know when you change that timing belt! Maybe a video of the process too!
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Old 11-12-2012, 01:56 PM   #33
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Let us know when you change that timing belt! Maybe a video of the process too!
Alright ill keep that in mind. Oh and btw it's timing chain. Sorry if it bothers anyone I said timing belt lol.
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:45 PM   #34
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Alright ill keep that in mind. Oh and btw it's timing chain. Sorry if it bothers anyone I said timing belt lol.
That is why I said you should shoot a video!
The rest of the parts will probably fall off of that car before you need to change that chain.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:22 AM   #35
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That is why I said you should shoot a video!
The rest of the parts will probably fall off of that car before you need to change that chain.
Nah. Did valve adjustments not too long ago. Car is still strong.
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:48 AM   #36
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:13 PM   #37
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:35 PM   #38
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I love how everyone here is saying that the dealership is taking the op for a ride and most of the stuff isnt most likely needed when yet no one has seen or inspected the car themselves. Do you have photo's. Did the dealer give you your brake specs? Pad thickness in mm and rotor thickness specs?

If you are UN-sure on the car. Take the car to another shop. Ask for a full inspection including brakes and suspension inspection and make.sure they give you specs with brakes,ball joints and such.

No need to go bashing dealerships when no one has physically seen the car and inspected it then selves.

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Old 11-14-2012, 10:39 AM   #39
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No need to go bashing dealerships when no one has physically seen the car and inspected it then selves.
You must work at a dealership.

At a minimum the pricing is ridiculous, more realistically the entire cooling system does not need to be replaced for $1600 unless there is something seriously different with the OP's car vs every other e46.
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Old 11-14-2012, 02:30 PM   #40
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No need to go bashing dealerships when no one has physically seen the car and inspected it then selves.

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Haha and I love when people go ahead and defend the dealerships lmao. We all have M3's in this thread (well I hope we do) so all symptoms are relative. And like being said a cooling system doesn't cost that much neither do the brakes or anything else. We don't need to see the car, common sense is enough
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