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Old 11-14-2012, 10:11 AM   #16401
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herpa-derp.

Now answer my question about side-pipes.
What was your question?
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:21 AM   #16402
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Yeah, that's why they run them in ALMS, DTM, F1, they don't make power.
Dont side pipes have a sort of scavenging affect at speed? There is a similiar design/idea to the crankcase vent on my deuce, it is routed down by the oil pan so that at speed, the air flowing by helps scavenge.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:44 AM   #16403
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Could have also been referring to the E60 M5...
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:23 AM   #16404
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Yeah, that's why they run them in ALMS, DTM, F1, they don't make power.



I will never ever own a mustang, just cause. They are garbage on the inside.
I wouldn't be friends with anyone that drove a mustang!
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:36 AM   #16405
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Dont side pipes have a sort of scavenging affect at speed? There is a similiar design/idea to the crankcase vent on my deuce, it is routed down by the oil pan so that at speed, the air flowing by helps scavenge.

The main aerodynamic advantage is the fact that hot exhaust gases are a perfect example of the kind of high-pressure air you don't want under the car, the obvious place to put the exhaust outlet is above the splitter or out the side where the gases can't roll under the car. Don't want to place the exhaust outlet right at the tail end of the diffuser, or you risk the high-pressure gases rushing under the car.

So by running the exhaust above the underside of the car not only flattens out the bottom of the car allowing air to move more smoothly but also reduces the amount of pressure creating negative lift.

The way that air passes around the car is less important as how it passes over and under the car.
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Old 11-14-2012, 02:30 PM   #16406
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Old 11-14-2012, 03:31 PM   #16407
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Sweet
Not sure if there would be a low pressure area at the point of the exhaust exiting the body but if there were then it would certainly help scavenging by accelerating the exhaust flow.

Ferrari shows the fact that exiting the exhaut over the rear diffuser works.
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:04 PM   #16408
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Give me 4 or 6 years and I'll school all of us in what's best.

In the mean time, I may do some reading...

http://www.amazon.com/scientific-des.../dp/B0006BV12O

http://www.amazon.com/The-Design-Tun...tition+Engines
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:11 PM   #16409
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Give me 4 or 6 years and I'll school all of us in what's best.

In the mean time, I may do some reading...

http://www.amazon.com/scientific-des.../dp/B0006BV12O

http://www.amazon.com/The-Design-Tun...tition+Engines
What's in 4 or 6 years?

I'm already about 10 books ahead of you bro. Some of which are the speed secrets and the rest are the Carrol Smith tuning books which incorporate suspension, chasis, and aerodynamic tuning. I'll leave engines to the pros.

I need to start seeing what's available for my ipad.

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Old 11-14-2012, 05:26 PM   #16410
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Degrees in Mechanical Engineering and Motorsports.
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:29 PM   #16411
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Degrees in Mechanical Engineering and Motorsports.
Young grasshopper. When you have a Masters in engineering, DO motorsports, and don't get in my way on the track (karting or otherwise) then I will
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:30 PM   #16412
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I kid I kid, but seriously.
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huh?

I posted links to introductory books on engine and exhaust design

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huh?

I posted links to introductory books on engine and exhaust design
if you buy them and finish them, I'd also like to read them.
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:57 PM   #16415
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huh?

I posted links to introductory books on engine and exhaust design
Just giving you a hard time, so more or less just being me.

So have you decided on that CO. ST. program then?
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:01 PM   #16416
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idk yet. That Motorsports program was a graduate level thing and its apparently very competitive to get in. Surprise surprise.

Here's the list of where I have applied to, in no particular order
Colorado State
University of Tulsa
KU
University of Denver
Santa Clara University
Marquette University
Washington University in STL (reach)
Miami University of Ohio

Then I also need to do apps for UW Madison and Purdue.
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For those who are curious, here's the fancy racecar program

http://www.engr.colostate.edu/me/mot...E_Research.htm
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WTF is "miami university of Ohio"?
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:08 PM   #16419
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idk yet. That Motorsports program was a graduate level thing and its apparently very competitive to get in. Surprise surprise.

Here's the list of where I have applied to, in no particular order
Colorado State
University of Tulsa
KU
University of Denver
Santa Clara University
Marquette University
Washington University in STL (reach)
Miami University of Ohio

Then I also need to do apps for UW Madison and Purdue.
If you come to Colorado you will never go home, no joke.

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WTF is "miami university of Ohio"?
Really, very good school.
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If you come to Colorado you will never go home, no joke.



Really, very good school.
Good public school located in Oxford, Ohio. (tiny college town) Which is in the Miami Valley, hence the name. They have a really good business school. (my backup) Its pretty preppy and social life revolves around the fraternities. The likelihood that I'll go there is pretty low. Consider it a safety.

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