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Old 11-15-2012, 01:11 AM   #101
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Akron is a huge city, so you really nailed that one on the head.

Congrats on your detective work

You obviously don't know Ohio. Youngstown, Toledo, Dayton are all well below Akron
You posted a story from that exact part of Akron.

Oh geez, I don't know Ohio. So sue me. You know Ohio apparently. Post up some proof that these crimes happen proportionately in good neighborhoods. Go outside Ohio if you need to.
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:18 AM   #102
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You posted a story from that exact part of Akron.

Oh geez, I don't know Ohio. So sue me. You know Ohio apparently. Post up some proof that these crimes happen proportionately in good neighborhoods. Go outside Ohio if you need to.
Im too lazy to search for your well being.

Scumbags will go where opportunity presents itself.

Elyria was a good example of one.

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Old 11-15-2012, 01:24 AM   #103
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Im too lazy to search for your well being.

Scumbags will go where opportunity presents itself.

Elyria was a good example of one.

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You're too lazy, here's where another of your stories happened:

http://www.city-data.com/zips/44113.html

Mere 44% living below poverty level.


Your examples prove my point, what was yours again?
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:00 AM   #104
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Yeah, all from premium neighborhoods I bet. Yes, it can happen anywhere but the moon, however the risk probability is FAR different depending on the location.

This thread is a bunch of people justifying living in high crime areas based on the fact that no place is completely crime free.

There is a difference. I've lived in places where burglary happens every few days, where anything not locked down will disappear in under a week, where someone gets shot within 15 blocks several times a year. Living there is a choice, and there are plenty of places where people don't live like that.
There was a home invasion about 2 miles from my house last week where the homeowners were held at gunpoint, tied up and the intruder took off with cash, jewelry, their car, and who knows what else. This was in a gated community where people probably think they are safe because they are at least a dozen miles or more from the nearest "problem" area.

I live in a rather high end town in the burbs where this isn't the norm. Obviously it can happen anywhere and you need to make plans to react accordingly. It was a great reminder that even in our quiet community, bad things happen.
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:28 AM   #106
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:36 PM   #107
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Better to have it and never need it than need it and never have it.

Arm up brother. No neighborhood on this planet is immune to crime
Let's just shoot some sh it. Get our blood pumping.
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:38 PM   #108
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Better to have it and never need it than need it and never have it.

Arm up brother. No neighborhood on this planet is immune to crime
What if the choices are 1) have it and have your child shot or 2) never need it, never have it.
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:37 PM   #109
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Obviously it can happen anywhere and you need to make plans to react accordingly.
How do you prioritize that particular threat against other dangerous problems like airplanes falling out of the sky?

Please be realistic here. Every one of us (with the possible exception of F2B) is thousands of times more likely to be injured or killed in a car accident than to suffer the same fate due to a home invasion robbery. The only LOGICAL approach is to stop driving entirely. Only THEN does it make sense to focus on turning one's home into an impenetrable fortress backed by a modest arsenal.


The biggest things anyone can do to reduce the risk of a home invasion is 1) Don't sell drugs. And 2) Don't buy drugs.

Yeah, occasionally people get hit for some other reason, but this is 99% of it.
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lol.

Pulling my wife's unlocked car door handle is a lot different than kicking in my front door.

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Old 11-16-2012, 04:54 PM   #111
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lol.

Pulling my wife's unlocked car door handle is a lot different than kicking in my front door.

That guy looks like ashton kutcher
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What if the choices are 1) have it and have your child shot or 2) never need it, never have it.
I don't get it? Why would my kid get shot?

If you had the power to predict that in the future I would never need to defend myself or someone else from harm, I probably would still carry.

I'd still own them for fun and sporting and to represent the 2nd Amendment which's impact and importance goes far beyond the above reasons

Firearms that are properly stored, secured, carried and kids educated on safety prevent your #1
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Cars usually come with a spare tire because you never know when or if you will get a flat tire. You may live in a town with nicely paved streets,and no nails in your driveway,but one day it could happen to you.
You would be a fool to not be prepared for that day. (Now relate metaphore to carrying a weapon every day and securing your house and familys safety).

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"Make sure you kill them" is very bad advice

Also, there is no crime for shooting someone in the back

Those of course are statements that go along with an enormously bigger knowledge of deadly force laws and justice system knowledge.

If the extent of your knowledge is limited only to the two statements, you don't understand enough
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Cars usually come with a spare tire because you never know when or if you will get a flat tire. You may live in a town with nicely paved streets,and no nails in your driveway,but one day it could happen to you.
You would be a fool to not be prepared for that day. (Now relate metaphore to carrying a weapon every day and securing your house and familys safety).

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You must live in an area with really good roads and horrible crime if these are even remotely comparable in frequency of need.
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You must live in an area with really good roads and horrible crime if these are even remotely comparable in frequency of need.
All crime is horrible and unpredictable. The consequences of not being prepared to defend your self and family can be fatal. If that doesn't mean anything to you then may the odds be ever in your favor.

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Life depends on it? For me, Glock all day.
Same here, Glocks are some of the most reliable out there. I think I might get a cheaper end Glock, or a 1911 Based gun.
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Same here, Glocks are some of the most reliable out there. I think I might get a cheaper end Glock, or a 1911 Based gun.
i wish i can understand why people would want a 1911 for home protection. i dont know much about it and i want to understand. but from my ignorant point of view, i would want a double action, single stack handgun.
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