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Old 11-20-2012, 04:47 PM   #61
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I cold start, sometimed the cold start ends up with ERROR message.

Sometimed it completes COLD START.

Thursday, lets meet for lunch.



that sounds wise.

A compound set up maybe? Compound charging....
Thursday it is , I will bring my laptop , lets see if we can flash it again to fix this issue or mine will be also joining your pboxes in UK
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:53 PM   #62
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epic thread. great to see mert back on here, please dont ban him and please dont buy anything from him. lol
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:39 PM   #63
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Those are some fancy chicken hawk tire warmers you have there, would you say they provided any benefit? I know they're expensive ($1500-$2000)
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:40 PM   #64
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Would love to know the solution for traction!
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:23 AM   #65
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Those are some fancy chicken hawk tire warmers you have there, would you say they provided any benefit? I know they're expensive ($1500-$2000)
They are custom made, you tell the tire size and they build the blanket.

They are good and not good.

What I mean: warm the tires to the desired temp.

Make one full 60-130 run.

After 130 mph coast down, and here is the problem, the tires get colder as the wind @ 130 mph cools tires.

It is like pi...ng against the wind, the wind cools the tires.

I was not able to make the best out of the blankets. I dont use them. They are almost new.



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Would love to know the solution for traction!
A separate thread regarding traction should be started and put as "sticky".

Regarding traction, there are many variables. So many.
By altering one variable, the overall traction may suffer or improve.

Each M3 is different in terms of power graph, where the power comes on and this has a big effect on the times.

I ve been testing different combinations and was able to cut a 4,23 s, september 2011.

After that I was able to improve traction further, although could not complete a full 60-130 run.
due to my newborn and it was snowing, winter.

In 3rd gear I was able to dead hook, saw 1 g, right before it started snowing.
That was january 5th, 2012. We saw 1 g in 3rd gear, road was very cold and we aborted tests due to snow. It started snowing while I was on the the highway.

On a warmer road surface traction will get better, time will tell

I pray to improve traction to cut a sub 3,5 s 60-130 time.
If I can come up with a sub 3,5 s 60-130 run Ill tell the tricks

Want to engrave the M3 name on the top of the 60-130 list.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:37 AM   #66
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They are custom made, you tell the tire size and they build the blanket.

They are good and not good.

What I mean: warm the tires to the desired temp.

Make one full 60-130 run.

After 130 mph coast down, and here is the problem, the tires get colder as the wind @ 130 mph cools tires.

It is like pi...ng against the wind, the wind cools the tires.

I was not able to make the best out of the blankets. I dont use them. They are almost new.





A separate thread regarding traction should be started and put as "sticky".

Regarding traction, there are many variables. So many.
By altering one variable, the overall traction may suffer or improve.

Each M3 is different in terms of power graph, where the power comes on and this has a big effect on the times.

I ve been testing different combinations and was able to cut a 4,23 s, september 2011.

After that I was able to improve traction further, although could not complete a full 60-130 run.
due to my newborn and it was snowing, winter.

In 3rd gear I was able to dead hook, saw 1 g, right before it started snowing.
That was january 5th, 2012. We saw 1 g in 3rd gear, road was very cold and we aborted tests due to snow. It started snowing while I was on the the highway.

On a warmer road surface traction will get better, time will tell

I pray to improve traction to cut a sub 3,5 s 60-130 time.
If I can come up with a sub 3,5 s 60-130 run Ill tell the tricks

Want to engrave the M3 name on the top of the 60-130 list.
You're out to prove a point I see. Good luck with the sub 3.5 time. Hopefully it comes soon so you can share your secrets!
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Old 11-21-2012, 10:37 AM   #67
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Thanks for sharing the photos!

I can see that your intake mani has a special design between the intake pipe and cylinder 1. In difference to for example the hpf mani, where the air has a straight passage. Any particular reason it was designed like this?
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Old 11-21-2012, 10:44 AM   #69
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Thanks for sharing the photos!

I can see that your intake mani has a special design between the intake pipe and cylinder 1. In difference to for example the hpf mani, where the air has a straight passage. Any particular reason it was designed like this?

Would you please explain what you mean?
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In a hpf or fsr manifold, the air basicly comes in from the front left hand "corner" of the plenum. On that type of design the air doesnt' have to change direction as much on its way into thecylinders. However. On your design the air enters the plenum in a direction not headed towards the cylinders at the front of the car, but still you seem to be the one making the most power.

I don't know if this was a good explanation as i don't have a wide vocabulary.
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:39 PM   #71
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In a hpf or fsr manifold, the air basicly comes in from the front left hand "corner" of the plenum. On that type of design the air doesnt' have to change direction as much on its way into thecylinders. However. On your design the air enters the plenum in a direction not headed towards the cylinders at the front of the car, but still you seem to be the one making the most power.

I don't know if this was a good explanation as i don't have a wide vocabulary.

Well, I see what you ask.

To be sure about the flow of this intake manifold, we installed lambda sensors into the exhaust manifold runners and tested individually.
Pectel allows the use of 4 pieces of 02 sensors.

I am about to put 6 x 02 sensors and 6 x EGT probes at the same time.

We also read plugs after big power runs, on boost only runs.

We also tend to read plugs after spraying nitrous.

The wide band sensor tests and spark plug readings showed that the air flow was OK.

Pectel allows to fine-tune individual cylinders. Assuming that you have a less flowing cylinder you decrease its fuel.

I do use individual cylinder trimming for safety only. Not all cylinders are created equal
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If i can hopefully get my Z4 working i believe i can make a meeting with HPF stage 3 M3, Twinturbo M3 and my Z4M...

A rolling race between this 3 cars Just for fun.

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I believe the weakest link in twinturbo m3 is the intake manifold. If i was HPF i would donate one to Mert. i believe it would help alot.
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A rolling race between this 3 cars Just for fun.


sounds nice.

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I believe the weakest link in twinturbo m3 is the intake manifold. If i was HPF i would donate one to Mert. i believe it would help alot.
Basar, tested at least 10 int manifolds before we chose this last one........
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What about opening a sticky 60-130 mph & 1/4 mile thread?

GTR and Porsche forums got sticky 60-130 & 1/4 mile threads.
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Jake - verified 5.47 on a 0.08% incline with 1-shift. Nice job. FWIW, I've always ran my fastest times on very slight inclines, rather than declines. Helps build boost better, who knows? Works for me.

Mert - Nice thread jack. Way to make Jake's accomplishment all about you.
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Jake - verified 5.47 on a 0.08% incline with 1-shift. Nice job. FWIW, I've always ran my fastest times on very slight inclines, rather than declines. Helps build boost better, who knows? Works for me.

Mert - Nice thread jack. Way to make Jake's accomplishment all about you.
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I did not intend to thread jack. I dont need to.
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Yes this thread is all about Jakes run and it is awesome!!! Good job Jake!

Although on a side note that e36 m
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