What do you bench?

Originally Posted by 2000_328CI

EDIT: FWIW, can anyone in here say they would actually take the strongman look over Phelps or other "cut" athletes? I know I'd take a WR or DB body type over a LB or offensive lineman any day of the week.

I wouldn't take either. I'm not a fan of Phelps' build AT ALL. I prefer the build of a stocky sprinter, and that's what I maintain and strive to improve upon.

Originally Posted by 2000_328CI

EDIT: FWIW, can anyone in here say they would actually take the strongman look over Phelps or other "cut" athletes? I know I'd take a WR or DB body type over a LB or offensive lineman any day of the week.

are we really going to get into this again? Powerlifters are pretty mucg strong fat guys. No one here is going for that look.

Originally Posted by M3Inline6

I wouldn't take either. I'm not a fan of Phelps' build AT ALL. I prefer the build of a stocky sprinter, and that's what I maintain and strive to improve upon.

completely agree. I will most likely never get the body I would really want but sprinters are in amazing shape.

Originally Posted by DME46

Depends on what your goals are. I would love to lift heavy and have a slender lean build, though.

I think thats very attainable, guys like zyzz certainly proved it with hard work and dedication

Thats my ultimate goal as well

Originally Posted by dabears

I think thats very attainable, guys like zyzz certainly proved it with hard work and dedication and a fvck load of drugs

Thats my ultimate goal as well

Fixed that for ya

Originally Posted by Glight

Fixed that for ya

Haha no way! he had a "heart condition"...

Originally Posted by dabears

Haha no way! he had a "heart condition"...

And, when you have a "heart condition" you probably shouldn't do a ton of tren.

He was an insufferable douche bag - Paris Hilton with a tan, some tren, and a webcam.

Originally Posted by dwass325

And, when you have a "heart condition" you probably shouldn't do a ton of tren.

He was an insufferable douche bag - Paris Hilton with a tan, some tren, and a webcam.

OMGZ! I tried to watch a YouTube video of his because I was unfamiliar with him. I couldn't stomach it. You hit the nail on the head.....PH, some tren and a webcam.

Not sure about phelps, but a lot of the olympic swimmers have some pleasing physiques IMO. Many are around 6'4, 220ish, which would be bigger than many of the track and field sprinters, but their type of training contributes to a long and lean look.

I think being big and stocky is good for the gym, but in regular clothes, long and lean looks a whole lot better.

Originally Posted by 2000_328CI

Of course they can.. it's simple physics. Which is why it's funny when you have a 5'5 guy taunting a dude who is 6'5 and has a two foot larger wingspan.

If you're tiny, you have to push the weight a much shorter distance. A much taller guy pushing an equivalent amount of weight is doing significantly more work. It's no different than the old notion that "the outside of a record is spinning faster than the inner portions". And not only is the distance an issue, but you also have the angle at which the bar hits your chest... dependent upon how "thick" your body is and the length of your arms, that angle will be much different. If you're a thinner guy with longer arms (like myself) your angle will be much steeper... if you're a thicker guy with short arms, you have much less work to do throughout the lift and your angle will be advantageous.

Regardless, I wouldn't trade a single one of my 75 inches for additional weight on a bench press.

Lastly, I've noticed people talking entirely different numbers in here. Some are mentioning their workout weights (10, 8, 6) which is what I did... others are talking max. Anybody making fun of anyone else's numbers is just a dbag.. if people are trying to continually improve, that should be celebrated (regardless of the mark). Would you mock a fat guy for "not losing weight fast enough?". Of course not.

EDIT: FWIW, can anyone in here say they would actually take the strongman look over Phelps or other "cut" athletes? I know I'd take a WR or DB body type over a LB or offensive lineman any day of the week.

Oh chase...always throws a book in when the conversation is almost done.

And yes, I'd take a Lb body over a WR/CB...some of those guys are twigs.

Originally Posted by Sensi09

Not sure about phelps, but a lot of the olympic swimmers have some pleasing physiques IMO. Many are around 6'4, 220ish, which would be bigger than many of the track and field sprinters, but their type of training contributes to a long and lean look.

I think being big and stocky is good for the gym, but in regular clothes, long and lean looks a whole lot better.

It is the same as sprinters...depends how youve trained your fibers...slow twitch fibers will use muscle for energy and you'll be small, faster twitch fibers as trained by sprinters,
Short distance guys will be bigger and bulky.

Originally Posted by Sensi09

Not sure about phelps, but a lot of the olympic swimmers have some pleasing physiques IMO. Many are around 6'4, 220ish, which would be bigger than many of the track and field sprinters, but their type of training contributes to a long and lean look.

I think being big and stocky is good for the gym, but in regular clothes, long and lean looks a whole lot better.

Phelps is 6'4 and more like 195lbs. This is roughly average size.

Proportionally and in general, swimmers are much smaller than sprinters.

Originally Posted by dwass325

Phelps is 6'4 and more like 195lbs. This is roughly average size.

Proportionally and in general, swimmers are much smaller than sprinters.

Who is that? Quads dont look nearly big enough to be an elite level sprinter, but I'm probably wrong...

...

Originally Posted by Glight

Who is that? Quads dont look nearly big enough to be an elite level sprinter, but I'm probably wrong...

Don't remember the name. But if he's undersized, it proves my point even more.

Originally Posted by BMW_Matt

Oh chase...always throws a book in when the conversation is almost done.

And yes, I'd take a Lb body over a WR/CB...some of those guys are twigs.

Everyone has goals unique to them, and shouldn't hate on others ideal physiques. I highly respect bodybuilders, because of the unimaginable dedication and hard work it required. Doesn't mean I want that for myself. But for me to say "those guys are stupid, why didn't they go for the underwear model look" is completely ignorant

Edit: not directed at anyone in particular here

Originally Posted by Sensi09

Not sure about phelps, but a lot of the olympic swimmers have some pleasing physiques IMO. Many are around 6'4, 220ish, which would be bigger than many of the track and field sprinters, but their type of training contributes to a long and lean look.

I think being big and stocky is good for the gym, but in regular clothes, long and lean looks a whole lot better.

Says the guy who is probably long and lean. I personally prefer size, but thats because I'm finally getting some.

Different strokes to different folks. I think age is a big factor as well.

I would never want to have a swimmers build personally. I think they are incredibly unbalance.

I hate this trend nowadays where everyone thinks that anyone who is lean has a good build....

Like I said though, everyone has a different opinion of what looks good, that what makes us human.

Originally Posted by dabears

Everyone has goals unique to them, and shouldn't hate on others ideal physiques. I highly respect bodybuilders, because of the unimaginable dedication and hard work it required. Doesn't mean I want that for myself. But for me to say "those guys are stupid, why didn't they go for the underwear model look" is completely ignorant

well said.

Originally Posted by dwass325

Phelps is 6'4 and more like 195lbs. This is roughly average size.

Proportionally and in general, swimmers are much smaller than sprinters.

You saved me the time. Lochte is about 195 lbs. as well.

Originally Posted by Glight

Says the guy who is probably long and lean. I personally prefer size, but thats because I'm finally getting some.

Different strokes to different folks. I think age is a big factor as well.

I would never want to have a swimmers build personally. I think they are incredibly unbalance.

I hate this trend nowadays where everyone thinks that anyone who is lean has a good build....

Like I said though, everyone has a different opinion of what looks good, that what makes us human.

I wish I was really lean and strong, but that's what I'm striving for.

I was never that strong for my height and weight, 6'3 220, but apparently I was a lot bigger before as a lot of people in the gym and random people would tell me. I thought people would say it as a joke, but I guess it's true.

Oh well, I would prefer to be leaner, but lose a lot of strength when I drop weight and I'm not that strong to begin with, so it's give and take.

But what do I know....I stopped squatting for awhile because my jeans were getting tight lol

Originally Posted by Sensi09

I wish I was really lean and strong, but that's what I'm striving for.

I was never that strong for my height and weight, 6'3 220, but apparently I was a lot bigger before as a lot of people in the gym and random people would tell me. I thought people would say it as a joke, but I guess it's true.

Oh well, I would prefer to be leaner, but lose a lot of strength when I drop weight and I'm not that strong to begin with, so it's give and take.

But what do I know....I stopped squatting for awhile because my jeans were getting tight lol

Pfft! F-that! Buy bigger jeans (..or be like me and rock those b|tches fitted; show off those quads). You can't expect to achieve strength gains if you're simultaneously neglecting your legs.