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Old 11-01-2012, 10:26 PM   #1
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Navigation Map Discs

Hey

Has anyone bought updated Navigation Map Discs from this guy before?

Link: http://www.navigationau.com/navigati...ies-x5-x6.html

If so, did they work properly? Any problems? Reviews?


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Old 11-02-2012, 04:04 AM   #2
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im after the same thing. no idea who to buy from
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Old 11-02-2012, 04:30 AM   #3
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Hey

Has anyone bought updated Navigation Map Discs from this guy before?

Link: http://www.navigationau.com/navigati...ies-x5-x6.html

If so, did they work properly? Any problems? Reviews?


Thanks
I dunno something about him seems shifty, he has an eBay as well with only 6 feedback and it's 3 users who have left 2 feedback each like a week apart all in about one month. He states pick up only but when you contact him he says he will only post it an you can only pay via bank deposit. Haven't been willing to take a gamble on it.
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Old 11-07-2012, 03:08 AM   #4
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The guy is dodgy and they are knock off copies.
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:01 PM   #5
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You can download them from the net. He prob just done that and burnt it on a disc and chuck on for sale.
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:19 PM   #6
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Only v16 is available and is about 3 years old now. It's possible that he's purchased legit copies and is just copying them but possibly even his v17 and v18 versions are really just v16.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:16 PM   #7
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Over at GPS Underground I'm told the MS5000 version will work. I'd spend $199 for a legit version from Whereis before I bought from this dodgy guy.

http://www.whereismaps.com/buy-map-u...m&deviceid=305
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:52 PM   #8
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Over at GPS Underground I'm told the MS5000 version will work. I'd spend $199 for a legit version from Whereis before I bought from this dodgy guy.

http://www.whereismaps.com/buy-map-u...m&deviceid=305
Does whereis actually work in our system though?

Has anyone actually downloaded off the net?? I cant seem to do it
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:10 PM   #9
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The v16 downloads work fine.

The CARiN disc format is what's used. From GPS Underground

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you need to pick VDO Dayton in dash system at the bottom of the page and ms5000 afterwards.

Whereis***65533; | Buy Sat Nav Map Updates | VDO Dayton - Sensis

this disc is 100% compatible with bmw mk1-mk2-mk3-mk4 nav systems

vdo has 3 database formats:

original (used by carin 5xx and ms5000 ms3000 systems, BMW MKx series, rover75, vw phaeton, renault CNI1, PSA and others)
CA (crypted, used by vdo dayton C-IQ series: pc3200, pc5400, pc5500/5510 pc5600 pc5700, R&S series)
NG (new generation, compressed, used by portable series [pn1000 pn2050 pn3000] and PC5200, renault CNI2)
ref: http://gpsunderground.com/forum/bmw/...mw-high-8.html (although the forum will probably eat this link)
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:13 PM   #10
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I'm waiting to hear from Whereis regarding what roads made it into v19. If it includes some of the new roadworks around Brisbane I may buy. $200 is much closer to reasonable (I think somewhere in the $50-100 range would get a lot more buyers) compared to $300-600 from the dealer.
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Old 11-08-2012, 02:54 AM   #11
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Whereis looks promising, would it work with the MK4 stock E46 navigation computer?

Has anyone bought it yet?

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Old 11-08-2012, 03:06 AM   #12
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Yes that should work for any E46 stock navigation system from MKI to MKIV and makes sense since it's just CARiN navigation. There shouldn't be any special reason you need a BMW disk. The text file on my V16 disk says:

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This medium contains a digital road map database for the CARiN- and VDODayton navigation compatible systems.
The medium can be used in `product' target-systems, for the "CARiN on PC" application, and for CARSiM.
Haven't heard back from Whereis yet, maybe tomorrow. There are very few references to V19 at all. It was only released a few weeks ago apparently. Even the Whereis website still mostly refers to V18.

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Old 11-08-2012, 03:24 AM   #13
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Has anyone burned their own copy of gpsunderground successfully?? I can't get it lol
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Old 11-08-2012, 03:28 AM   #14
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Keep it above board here.

It works fine. There are multiple sources.
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:29 PM   #15
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Shonky did you ever hear back from Whereis about the latest map updates ?
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:39 PM   #16
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I did actually. Took them a while to reply though.

Their release notes attached here for V18 and V19.

I note that a number of the V19 "updates" are the same as V18...[/cynic]
Attached Files
File Type: pdf Whereis_Version_18_Map_Update.pdf (893.1 KB, 96 views)
File Type: pdf XWISGENBK19-8-TEXT.pdf.pdf (3.15 MB, 87 views)

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Old 11-27-2012, 10:57 PM   #17
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Thanks for the info !
Did You end up buying V19 199.00 ?

I have an E46 M3 with updated MKIV Nav and was thinking about taking the plunge ..
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:27 PM   #18
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Duh... yeah should have mentioned that... Not thinking straight today

Actually yes I did buy the v19. A couple of observations from very limited driving (mini review):

1) It also has Airport Link seemingly complete (even though not mentioned in the notes I posted).
2) Looks like maps are TomTom based about June 2012 which doesn't match some of the doco (i.e. V19 notes show as May 2012). From the ABSTRACT file:
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This medium contains a digital road map database for the CARiN- and VDODayton navigation compatible systems.
The medium can be used in `product' target-systems, for the "CARiN on PC" application, and for CARSiM.

Tool :5001
Date :2012-06-28
CD number :21370
Medium :Master CD
Navigation databases:
.../prod/tom/cpr/oce/oce/oce_tom_tom_201203_20120621p23/oce_tom_tom_201203_20120621p23.cpr
Type :non C-IQ
Event Texts :carinet16s2048.20080318
TPD Database :/data/ops/itpd/full_products/MP121-8291/20120628
IBA Database :Not available
CARINSYS File :Not available
3) Flyover at the airport is there but the MKIV decides to not use it for some reason.
4) Had a small play with POIs (but never use them). There is a new TPD folder compared to V16 and that has some HTML type pages in it that the MKIV seems to understand and can use. Haven't gone back to my V16 to see what it showed.
5) Shipping was fast - only 2 or 3 days with standard delivery even though it said 5-7 or something
6) Comes as a pressed CD
7) Works fine so far with everything I've tried (limited though at the moment) even though not a BMW disc.
8) Fairly happy with the purchase given it's got the latest tunnels on it.

Before anyone asks, no I will not make copies. Sorry. I don't think $199 is completely unreasonable for a 10+ year old nav system.

If you want me to check if a road or address exists I can probably do that for you.
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:37 PM   #19
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Awesome Shonky , thanks for the review ! I think I just might buy it, mine has red disk 12 ! Just a tad outdated !
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