Reasons to love SMG - Page 4

sakumaxp · 12-03-2012, 06:29 PM

You can get it programmed to have shift lights but only SMG from the factory has them

E46Cherry · 12-03-2012, 09:08 PM

what are "shift lights"?

sakumaxp · 12-03-2012, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by E46Cherry

what are "shift lights"?

As you reach higher into the RPM range there are a series of lights that climb counterclockwise on the cluster, from orange to red, red being the highest RPM and telling you to shift

E46Cherry · 12-04-2012, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by sakumaxp

As you reach higher into the RPM range there are a series of lights that climb counterclockwise on the cluster, from orange to red, red being the highest RPM and telling you to shift

Oh yeah got those. I was confused about something else

zenaissance · 12-04-2012, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 808elise

That last statement is funny. DCT is amazing and far better than SMG. It is far faster and smoother.

DCT and any other dual clutch system like PDK is way smoother as you say. However that's the problem I dislike with them- it doesn't feel as connected when you are shifting. SMG is so idiosyncratic in nature- closer to a manual in feel- it has a personality to it. It feels more raw and I can take that over any performance benefits.

illestminimike · 12-04-2012, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by zenaissance

DCT and any other dual clutch system like PDK is way smoother as you say. However that's the problem I dislike with them- it doesn't feel as connected when you are shifting. SMG is so idiosyncratic in nature- closer to a manual in feel- it has a personality to it. It feels more raw and I can take that over any performance benefits.

I agree with all of this.

wildpig · 12-07-2012, 02:36 AM

So how hard to you mash the gas pedal? do you have sports mode on? i never try to go all out on mine. Just afraid of breaking the car if i go all out. lol

SD 328I · 12-07-2012, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by zenaissance

DCT and any other dual clutch system like PDK is way smoother as you say. However that's the problem I dislike with them- it doesn't feel as connected when you are shifting. SMG is so idiosyncratic in nature- closer to a manual in feel- it has a personality to it. It feels more raw and I can take that over any performance benefits.

This is part of the reason why Toyota used a single clutch system for their Lexus supercar, the dual-clutch was seen as just too refine, less mechanical than they wanted it to feel.

roadtrip1098 · 12-07-2012, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by wildpig

So how hard to you mash the gas pedal? do you have sports mode on? i never try to go all out on mine. Just afraid of breaking the car if i go all out. lol

I never mash from a dig, maybe about 75% throttle and that's where the wheels start to slip. Once you're moving, 100% is fine, you can even feel the vanos system working. It's not as prominent as a turbo, but you'll be all like, "V-Tech just kicked in bro!"

AzCamel · 12-07-2012, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SD 328I

This is part of the reason why Toyota used a single clutch system for their Lexus supercar, the dual-clutch was seen as just too refine, less mechanical than they wanted it to feel.

False, the LFA use the single clutch system because the car was 10 years in the making and the dual clutch system was still not complete and ready, they "settled" for the single clutch. If I can find the article I will post it, if they had to do over and the dual clutch system was ready it would be in the LFA.

SD 328I · 12-07-2012, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by AzCamel

False, the LFA use the single clutch system because the car was 10 years in the making and the dual clutch system was still not complete and ready, they "settled" for the single clutch. If I can find the article I will post it, if they had to do over and the dual clutch system was ready it would be in the LFA.

You could be right, but the several articles I've read, including ones directly from Toyota PR, and several well known publications only mention that they did it on purpose as I mentioned earlier. Please link that article, curious to see it.

For me personally, I would have thought that there wasn't a dual-clutch system that could handle the power at the time?

illestminimike · 12-07-2012, 11:33 AM

Stop with the Toyota talk in my thread. Please and thank you.

ANREC330 · 12-07-2012, 12:23 PM

Still a Toyota.

Tried launch control yesterday. Safe to say I needed to change my pants after.

remington · 12-07-2012, 03:15 PM

I like how it encourages spirited driving, since it's a dog at low RPMs and an animal when in the powerband.

roadtrip1098 · 12-10-2012, 12:17 PM

Def. one feature I will miss once my M is gone.

scca_ziptie · 12-10-2012, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by zenaissance

dct and any other dual clutch system like pdk is way smoother as you say. However that's the problem i dislike with them- it doesn't feel as connected when you are shifting. Smg is so idiosyncratic in nature- closer to a manual in feel- it has a personality to it. It feels more raw and i can take that over any performance benefits.

+100

jkinnell · 12-15-2012, 11:36 AM

I love all these posts guys - - I just brought home a 2006 M3 with SMG and Perf Package - - This is my first experience ever with this tranny - - where can I go to learn about all of the different settings for SMG. My manual leaves a bit to be desired - - Thanks

illestminimike · 12-15-2012, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jkinnell

I love all these posts guys - - I just brought home a 2006 M3 with SMG and Perf Package - - This is my first experience ever with this tranny - - where can I go to learn about all of the different settings for SMG. My manual leaves a bit to be desired - - Thanks

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=941508
Check this out.

jkinnell · 12-16-2012, 04:42 AM

Thank you . . . any other tips are very welcome

roadtrip1098 · 12-17-2012, 07:33 AM

Yeah, check out my troubleshooting guide. It's on here someplace. Read it and learn it, that way IF something ever happens you don't have to freak out about it being a $4000 repair. Most fixes are cheap. PM me if you ever have an issue and I'll try to help you out.

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12-07-2012, 02:36 AM	#67
wildpig Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: FL Posts: 46 My Ride: 2003 BMW M3 Convert View My Garage	So how hard to you mash the gas pedal? do you have sports mode on? i never try to go all out on mine. Just afraid of breaking the car if i go all out. lol __________________ 2003 BMW M3 Convertible

12-07-2012, 11:33 AM	#72
illestminimike Registered User Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: West Covina CA Posts: 3,924 My Ride: 2003 SMG Vert M3 View My Garage	Stop with the Toyota talk in my thread. Please and thank you. __________________ -2003 M3 Vert -1967 Mini Cooper

12-07-2012, 12:23 PM	#73
ANREC330 Modded ///Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: CA Posts: 824 My Ride: C6 Vette & M3 View My Garage	Still a Toyota. Tried launch control yesterday. Safe to say I needed to change my pants after. __________________ Too much for a signature Instagram @ j_cerna

12-07-2012, 03:15 PM	#74
remington Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: California Posts: 42 My Ride: 2006 M3 competition View My Garage	I like how it encourages spirited driving, since it's a dog at low RPMs and an animal when in the powerband.

12-10-2012, 12:17 PM	#75
roadtrip1098 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Winslow, ME Posts: 349 My Ride: 04 M3 SMG LSB View My Garage	Def. one feature I will miss once my M is gone.

12-15-2012, 11:36 AM	#77
jkinnell Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Westerville Ohio Posts: 2 My Ride: E46 M3 View My Garage	I love all these posts guys - - I just brought home a 2006 M3 with SMG and Perf Package - - This is my first experience ever with this tranny - - where can I go to learn about all of the different settings for SMG. My manual leaves a bit to be desired - - Thanks

12-16-2012, 04:42 AM	#79
jkinnell Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Westerville Ohio Posts: 2 My Ride: E46 M3 View My Garage	Thank you . . . any other tips are very welcome

12-17-2012, 07:33 AM	#80
roadtrip1098 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Winslow, ME Posts: 349 My Ride: 04 M3 SMG LSB View My Garage	Yeah, check out my troubleshooting guide. It's on here someplace. Read it and learn it, that way IF something ever happens you don't have to freak out about it being a $4000 repair. Most fixes are cheap. PM me if you ever have an issue and I'll try to help you out.

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